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i do have the report thanks to chris

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maybe a little clunky clunky to read it

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nine pages so

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more than we expected rubio's saying

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we still don't know if these are a

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obviously china and russia are not

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i just linked to it so i'll link it in

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the comments too it doesn't always load

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link to it in the chat thank you to

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getting me a link that worked i think it

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i have not read it yet but i'm going to

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and then once i read it you guys can

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if you want to ask questions or comments

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or whatever you want to do all right so

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nine pages going to take a while this

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preliminary report is provided by the

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characterizing the potential threat

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if and when they encounter uap so as to

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the threat the director uap task force

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consolidation of data of uap the

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for aviation drafted this report that

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doesn't sound right but

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agencies where they had input usd

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very here we go assumptions various

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in other words this is not about

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glitches that's showstock

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capture another real enough real data to

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now set showstack is back in the the

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all right well even when i even bring

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if it's making it into this into this

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report i would think you would have

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ruled out

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executive summary we are all executives

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people who have analyzed data for 70

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the uap task force considered a range of

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forest task force more like a uap

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to twitter if you guys can send the link

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one of the sources got it wrong or they

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heard it wrong from wherever they heard

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i'm not disappointed with this because

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of those lowered expectations let me

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let me keep reading hopefully if some

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if you cannot read the report this is a

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just oh yeah i saw this but they weren't

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able to capture it i guess

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whatever sensors they were using

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after carefully considering this

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information the uap task force focused

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on reports that involved

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largely witnessed firsthand by military

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aviators and that were collected from

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systems we considered to be reliable

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these reports describe incidents that

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occurred between 2004 and 2021 with the

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majority coming

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in the last two years as the new

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reporting mechanism became better known

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to the military aviation community

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we were able to identify one reported

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uap

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with high confidence what

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we were able to identify one reported

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uap with high confidence one

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in that case we identified the object oh

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as a large deflating balloon

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and it just happened to look like batman

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no i'm just kidding the others remain

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unexplained so only

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one was explained so that's

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that's good if you're looking for true

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unknowns 144 reports originated from

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united states government sources okay

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now i know

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the air force part was

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there may have been i'll get back to

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that

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144 reports originated from u.s

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government sources of these 80 reports

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involved

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observation with multiple sensors so of

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the 144

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80 involved multiple sensors which you

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want

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the more sensors the better most reports

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described uap as objects that

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interrupted pre-planning training or

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other military activity so right there i

334
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would think that's a threat

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to their training you know an

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interruption

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slash nuisance if threat is too much of

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a

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dire but you know

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highly sensitive areas where you're

341
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doing training

342
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all right uap collection collection

343
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challenges socio culture socio

344
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cultural stigmas and sensor limitations

345
00:16:09,430 --> 00:16:07,759
remain obstacles to collecting data on

346
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uap in other words people don't want to

347
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talk about it and

348
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i guess our sensors are not that great

349
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according to that

350
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when lou talks about low observability

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although some technical challenges such

352
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as how to appropriately filter

353
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out radar clutter to ensure safety of

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flight for military and civilian

355
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aircraft

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aviation community

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while others are unique to the to the

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uap problem set

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00:16:38,790 --> 00:16:36,880
narratives narratives from aviators in

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the operational community and

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00:16:42,629 --> 00:16:40,560
analysts from the military and

362
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intelligence community describe

363
00:16:48,870 --> 00:16:45,920
disparagement associated with observing

364
00:16:50,069 --> 00:16:48,880
uap reporting it or attempting to

365
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discuss it with collie

366
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colleagues so yeah they don't want to

367
00:16:55,350 --> 00:16:54,079
talk about it because people are making

368
00:16:56,790 --> 00:16:55,360
fun of them after they have these

369
00:16:58,150 --> 00:16:56,800
sightings and talk and come back and

370
00:17:00,230 --> 00:16:58,160
talk about it

371
00:17:01,910 --> 00:17:00,240
so they're hesitant to even bring it up

372
00:17:04,150 --> 00:17:01,920
although the effects of

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00:17:05,590 --> 00:17:04,160
these stigmas have lessened as senior

374
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members of the scientific

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00:17:08,949 --> 00:17:07,360
policy military and intelligence

376
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communities engage on the topic

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seriously in public

378
00:17:14,390 --> 00:17:12,559
reputational risk may keep many

379
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observers silent

380
00:17:19,510 --> 00:17:17,280
complicating scientific pursuit of this

381
00:17:22,069 --> 00:17:19,520
of the topic

382
00:17:24,309 --> 00:17:22,079
the sensors mounted on u s military

383
00:17:27,029 --> 00:17:24,319
platforms are typically designed

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to fulfill specific missions as a result

385
00:17:31,590 --> 00:17:28,160
those sensors are not

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generally suited for identifying uap

387
00:17:35,029 --> 00:17:33,760
sensor vantage points and the numbers of

388
00:17:37,909 --> 00:17:35,039
sensors concurrently

389
00:17:40,150 --> 00:17:37,919
observing an object play substantial

390
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roles in distinguishing uap from known

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objects

392
00:17:44,830 --> 00:17:42,480
and determining whether a uap

393
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demonstrates breakthrough aerospace

394
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capabilities

395
00:17:50,310 --> 00:17:48,559
optical sensors have the benefit of

396
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providing some insight into the relative

397
00:17:53,270 --> 00:17:50,880
size

398
00:17:55,430 --> 00:17:53,280
shape and structure radio frequency

399
00:17:59,669 --> 00:17:55,440
sensors provide more accurate velocity

400
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so

401
00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:07,350
give me one second

402
00:18:11,270 --> 00:18:08,710
i'm just going to send out the link to

403
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check in on on comments what you guys

404
00:18:21,909 --> 00:18:17,600
are thinking so far i mean it's a little

405
00:18:23,430 --> 00:18:21,919
wordy but i need to read through it

406
00:18:25,350 --> 00:18:23,440
where can we see the report i linked to

407
00:18:26,150 --> 00:18:25,360
it already in the comments if you scroll

408
00:18:29,430 --> 00:18:26,160
up

409
00:18:32,789 --> 00:18:29,440
i also tweeted it um

410
00:18:36,390 --> 00:18:32,799
chris wolford had the link

411
00:18:36,870 --> 00:18:36,400
um i i really i should just go through

412
00:18:39,669 --> 00:18:36,880
this so

413
00:18:41,029 --> 00:18:39,679
so far it's very not technical but it's

414
00:18:42,549 --> 00:18:41,039
a little boring talking about how they

415
00:18:48,630 --> 00:18:42,559
collected and

416
00:18:53,430 --> 00:18:51,510
although there was wide variability in

417
00:18:56,710 --> 00:18:53,440
the reports and the data say

418
00:18:57,669 --> 00:18:56,720
set although there was wide variability

419
00:18:59,350 --> 00:18:57,679
in the reports

420
00:19:00,870 --> 00:18:59,360
and the data set is currently too

421
00:19:03,909 --> 00:19:00,880
limited to allow for

422
00:19:05,510 --> 00:19:03,919
detailed trend or pattern analysis

423
00:19:07,990 --> 00:19:05,520
well listen to little he said there were

424
00:19:08,470 --> 00:19:08,000
patterns there was some clustering of

425
00:19:10,950 --> 00:19:08,480
uap

426
00:19:12,230 --> 00:19:10,960
observations regarding shape size and

427
00:19:15,750 --> 00:19:12,240
particularly

428
00:19:17,750 --> 00:19:15,760
propulsion interesting

429
00:19:20,070 --> 00:19:17,760
uap sightings also tended to cluster

430
00:19:22,310 --> 00:19:20,080
around u.s training and testing grounds

431
00:19:24,230 --> 00:19:22,320
but we assess that this may result from

432
00:19:27,830 --> 00:19:24,240
a collection bias in other words

433
00:19:29,430 --> 00:19:27,840
yeah we're picking up these objects

434
00:19:30,870 --> 00:19:29,440
in training grounds because that's where

435
00:19:32,310 --> 00:19:30,880
we have our sensors they may be

436
00:19:33,909 --> 00:19:32,320
everywhere else but we don't have that

437
00:19:34,789 --> 00:19:33,919
kind of collection ability in the middle

438
00:19:37,029 --> 00:19:34,799
of nowhere

439
00:19:41,669 --> 00:19:37,039
where they may be you know so that makes

440
00:19:44,789 --> 00:19:43,029
we assess this may result from a

441
00:19:46,470 --> 00:19:44,799
collection bias as a result of focused

442
00:19:48,549 --> 00:19:46,480
attention greater numbers of latest

443
00:19:49,830 --> 00:19:48,559
generation sensors operating in those

444
00:19:52,310 --> 00:19:49,840
areas

445
00:19:53,350 --> 00:19:52,320
unit expectations and guidance to report

446
00:19:57,350 --> 00:19:53,360
anomalies

447
00:20:01,669 --> 00:19:59,750
as richard dolan said in a recent video

448
00:20:02,789 --> 00:20:01,679
they may be everywhere over our houses

449
00:20:04,549 --> 00:20:02,799
at night

450
00:20:06,070 --> 00:20:04,559
we don't have sensors operating

451
00:20:08,549 --> 00:20:06,080
everywhere although you know we have

452
00:20:09,990 --> 00:20:08,559
more video cameras than ever

453
00:20:11,590 --> 00:20:10,000
not pointing directly up in the sky

454
00:20:14,310 --> 00:20:11,600
though

455
00:20:16,230 --> 00:20:14,320
a handful of uap or uap appear to

456
00:20:18,070 --> 00:20:16,240
demonstrate advanced technology that's

457
00:20:23,190 --> 00:20:18,080
the ones we want

458
00:20:26,070 --> 00:20:23,200
in 18 incidents described in 21 reports

459
00:20:28,710 --> 00:20:26,080
observers reported unusual uap movement

460
00:20:31,590 --> 00:20:28,720
patterns or flight characteristics

461
00:20:33,190 --> 00:20:31,600
some uap appeared to remain stationary

462
00:20:36,710 --> 00:20:33,200
in winds aloft

463
00:20:39,590 --> 00:20:36,720
move against the wind maneuver abruptly

464
00:20:41,830 --> 00:20:39,600
instantaneous acceleration or move at

465
00:20:43,990 --> 00:20:41,840
considerable speed without discern

466
00:20:46,070 --> 00:20:44,000
discernible means of propulsion in a

467
00:20:47,190 --> 00:20:46,080
small number of cases military aircraft

468
00:20:50,310 --> 00:20:47,200
systems

469
00:20:54,070 --> 00:20:50,320
processed radio frequency energy

470
00:20:57,270 --> 00:20:54,080
associated with uap sightings so

471
00:21:00,549 --> 00:20:57,280
they're picking up rf from these objects

472
00:21:03,350 --> 00:21:00,559
radio frequency energy

473
00:21:05,669 --> 00:21:03,360
trying to communicate is that a

474
00:21:07,430 --> 00:21:05,679
something related to the propulsion

475
00:21:09,669 --> 00:21:07,440
and it's only a small number of cases

476
00:21:10,789 --> 00:21:09,679
the uap task force and we're up we're on

477
00:21:12,710 --> 00:21:10,799
page five of nine

478
00:21:14,310 --> 00:21:12,720
the uap test force holds a small amount

479
00:21:16,070 --> 00:21:14,320
of data that appear to show uap

480
00:21:19,669 --> 00:21:16,080
demonstrating acceleration

481
00:21:21,029 --> 00:21:19,679
or a degree of signature management

482
00:21:22,950 --> 00:21:21,039
i'm not really sure what signature

483
00:21:24,789 --> 00:21:22,960
management is if it's changing if it has

484
00:21:28,470 --> 00:21:24,799
some sort of electronic output is it

485
00:21:31,430 --> 00:21:28,480
is it changing that for whatever reason

486
00:21:32,310 --> 00:21:31,440
reason additional rigorous analysis are

487
00:21:35,350 --> 00:21:32,320
necessary by

488
00:21:37,270 --> 00:21:35,360
multiple term teams or groups of

489
00:21:38,950 --> 00:21:37,280
technical experts

490
00:21:40,390 --> 00:21:38,960
in other words we need to fund a

491
00:21:42,390 --> 00:21:40,400
permanent group

492
00:21:44,950 --> 00:21:42,400
to determine the nature and validities

493
00:21:46,710 --> 00:21:44,960
validity of these data we are conducting

494
00:21:48,149 --> 00:21:46,720
further analysis to determine if

495
00:21:49,750 --> 00:21:48,159
breakthrough technologies were

496
00:21:51,909 --> 00:21:49,760
demonstrated

497
00:21:53,430 --> 00:21:51,919
yeah well i've heard from a very very

498
00:21:55,350 --> 00:21:53,440
good source but breakth

499
00:21:56,630 --> 00:21:55,360
breakthrough technologies were 100

500
00:21:58,549 --> 00:21:56,640
demonstrated that's why

501
00:22:00,149 --> 00:21:58,559
that's why the o and i and uap task

502
00:22:01,669 --> 00:22:00,159
force believe these are off-world

503
00:22:04,470 --> 00:22:01,679
vehicles so

504
00:22:05,110 --> 00:22:04,480
yeah definitely a bit of a whitewash

505
00:22:09,190 --> 00:22:05,120
here

506
00:22:12,149 --> 00:22:09,200
um but we're still on page five

507
00:22:13,190 --> 00:22:12,159
the uap probably lack a single

508
00:22:15,990 --> 00:22:13,200
explanation

509
00:22:17,669 --> 00:22:16,000
yeah probably don't know that though um

510
00:22:18,310 --> 00:22:17,679
i'm still open to it all being one as

511
00:22:21,430 --> 00:22:18,320
far as the

512
00:22:23,830 --> 00:22:21,440
other bin being one phenomenon or

513
00:22:25,510 --> 00:22:23,840
multiple groups multiple intelligences

514
00:22:27,350 --> 00:22:25,520
but here they're talking maybe maybe we

515
00:22:30,390 --> 00:22:27,360
have some russia and china you know

516
00:22:33,029 --> 00:22:30,400
and maybe something from the other bin

517
00:22:33,669 --> 00:22:33,039
the uap documented in this limited data

518
00:22:35,990 --> 00:22:33,679
set

519
00:22:38,230 --> 00:22:36,000
said demonstrate an array of aerial

520
00:22:40,230 --> 00:22:38,240
behaviors reinforcing the possibility

521
00:22:42,070 --> 00:22:40,240
there are multiple types of uap

522
00:22:44,549 --> 00:22:42,080
requiring different explanations

523
00:22:46,230 --> 00:22:44,559
our analysis of the data supports the

524
00:22:49,029 --> 00:22:46,240
construct that if and when

525
00:22:50,789 --> 00:22:49,039
individual uap incidents are resolved

526
00:22:51,430 --> 00:22:50,799
they will fall into one of five

527
00:22:55,830 --> 00:22:51,440
potential

528
00:22:59,029 --> 00:22:55,840
explanatory airborne clutter

529
00:23:02,070 --> 00:22:59,039
natural atmospheric phenomena

530
00:23:05,830 --> 00:23:02,080
remember this is our analysis

531
00:23:08,149 --> 00:23:05,840
so airborne clutter is one

532
00:23:09,909 --> 00:23:08,159
natural atmospheric phenomena as to

533
00:23:11,110 --> 00:23:09,919
united states government or industry

534
00:23:14,070 --> 00:23:11,120
developmental

535
00:23:15,669 --> 00:23:14,080
programs in other words our tech foreign

536
00:23:23,750 --> 00:23:15,679
adversary systems

537
00:23:25,909 --> 00:23:23,760
and a catch-all like they said other bin

538
00:23:28,390 --> 00:23:25,919
so in other words yeah they're basically

539
00:23:29,669 --> 00:23:28,400
saying they their analysis shows that

540
00:23:33,110 --> 00:23:29,679
there

541
00:23:36,470 --> 00:23:33,120
the other bin

542
00:23:39,990 --> 00:23:36,480
so it's a very slight thing but

543
00:23:43,510 --> 00:23:40,000
obviously not ruling out other

544
00:23:46,310 --> 00:23:43,520
the others with the exception of the one

545
00:23:47,750 --> 00:23:46,320
instance with the exception of the one

546
00:23:49,350 --> 00:23:47,760
instance where we determined

547
00:23:50,789 --> 00:23:49,360
with high confidence that the reported

548
00:23:53,590 --> 00:23:50,799
uap was an airborne

549
00:23:55,190 --> 00:23:53,600
was was airborne clutter specifically a

550
00:23:57,269 --> 00:23:55,200
deflating balloon

551
00:23:58,390 --> 00:23:57,279
we currently lack sufficient information

552
00:24:01,350 --> 00:23:58,400
in our data

553
00:24:02,310 --> 00:24:01,360
set to attribute incidents to specific

554
00:24:04,470 --> 00:24:02,320
explanations

555
00:24:05,990 --> 00:24:04,480
meanwhile we know who's inside the

556
00:24:07,269 --> 00:24:06,000
saucers we know who's inside the

557
00:24:08,870 --> 00:24:07,279
triangles and i know people don't

558
00:24:13,110 --> 00:24:08,880
believe that but

559
00:24:16,470 --> 00:24:13,120
i trust my source 100 percent on that

560
00:24:18,149 --> 00:24:16,480
um and it's not it's not the person who

561
00:24:20,870 --> 00:24:18,159
originally shared it

562
00:24:21,430 --> 00:24:20,880
in that group airborne clutter these

563
00:24:24,390 --> 00:24:21,440
objects

564
00:24:26,230 --> 00:24:24,400
include birds balloons recreational

565
00:24:29,269 --> 00:24:26,240
unmanned aerial vehicles

566
00:24:31,269 --> 00:24:29,279
uav or airborne debris

567
00:24:32,710 --> 00:24:31,279
like plastic bags that muddle a scene in

568
00:24:34,390 --> 00:24:32,720
effect and operate his ability to

569
00:24:38,230 --> 00:24:34,400
identify true targets such as

570
00:24:39,430 --> 00:24:38,240
enemy aircraft natural atmospheric

571
00:24:42,710 --> 00:24:39,440
phenomena

572
00:24:45,269 --> 00:24:42,720
ice crystals

573
00:24:47,990 --> 00:24:45,279
by the way that's what they're um on the

574
00:24:50,310 --> 00:24:48,000
on the nimitz you talked to gary and

575
00:24:51,350 --> 00:24:50,320
gary voorhees and some of the folks like

576
00:24:53,029 --> 00:24:51,360
kevin day and

577
00:24:55,190 --> 00:24:53,039
their commanding officer tried to

578
00:24:57,110 --> 00:24:55,200
explain the tic tac

579
00:24:58,870 --> 00:24:57,120
events as ice crystals and they just

580
00:25:00,630 --> 00:24:58,880
laughed at them

581
00:25:02,789 --> 00:25:00,640
so natural atmospheric phenomena

582
00:25:04,789 --> 00:25:02,799
includes ice crystals moisture and

583
00:25:05,269 --> 00:25:04,799
thermal fluctuations that may register

584
00:25:08,470 --> 00:25:05,279
on some

585
00:25:11,110 --> 00:25:08,480
infrared and radar systems the next one

586
00:25:14,310 --> 00:25:11,120
is usg or industry developmental

587
00:25:16,310 --> 00:25:14,320
programs in other words our technology

588
00:25:18,070 --> 00:25:16,320
some uap observations could be

589
00:25:19,430 --> 00:25:18,080
attributable to developments and

590
00:25:22,310 --> 00:25:19,440
classified programs

591
00:25:23,430 --> 00:25:22,320
by united states entities see that's why

592
00:25:26,470 --> 00:25:23,440
i tried to point out

593
00:25:28,390 --> 00:25:26,480
in several audio things that i did that

594
00:25:30,230 --> 00:25:28,400
the sources in the new york times did

595
00:25:32,149 --> 00:25:30,240
not rule out that some of this was our

596
00:25:33,830 --> 00:25:32,159
technology and i'm not even saying

597
00:25:35,110 --> 00:25:33,840
that any of these reports include our

598
00:25:35,590 --> 00:25:35,120
technology i know they're saying that

599
00:25:37,269 --> 00:25:35,600
but

600
00:25:38,950 --> 00:25:37,279
in my opinion if we have some of this

601
00:25:40,870 --> 00:25:38,960
technology it may

602
00:25:42,230 --> 00:25:40,880
it may not be captured it may be smart

603
00:25:45,430 --> 00:25:42,240
enough to not be captured on

604
00:25:46,870 --> 00:25:45,440
you know navy and air force sensors but

605
00:25:48,789 --> 00:25:46,880
they have not ruled out that some of

606
00:25:50,310 --> 00:25:48,799
this is our tech

607
00:25:52,789 --> 00:25:50,320
um and i know people don't like that and

608
00:25:55,350 --> 00:25:52,799
i don't i don't you know if that's true

609
00:25:55,830 --> 00:25:55,360
i think it would be such a small amount

610
00:25:59,029 --> 00:25:55,840
that was

611
00:26:00,549 --> 00:25:59,039
ours or human tech we were and then they

612
00:26:01,750 --> 00:26:00,559
finished they go we were unable to

613
00:26:03,909 --> 00:26:01,760
confirm however

614
00:26:05,350 --> 00:26:03,919
that those that these systems accounted

615
00:26:08,070 --> 00:26:05,360
for any of the uap

616
00:26:09,510 --> 00:26:08,080
reports we collected so they couldn't

617
00:26:12,870 --> 00:26:09,520
prove that any of these

618
00:26:14,630 --> 00:26:12,880
were our tech so the door is open a tiny

619
00:26:17,269 --> 00:26:14,640
bit to some of this being our tech but

620
00:26:18,870 --> 00:26:17,279
like i said if if we have some of us

621
00:26:21,750 --> 00:26:18,880
some of this tech

622
00:26:23,510 --> 00:26:21,760
it may not be seen by our guys maybe the

623
00:26:26,950 --> 00:26:23,520
people who run that tech if it's

624
00:26:29,029 --> 00:26:26,960
you know it's an extremely hidden

625
00:26:30,149 --> 00:26:29,039
unacknowledged special access program

626
00:26:33,269 --> 00:26:30,159
you know they're smart enough

627
00:26:34,789 --> 00:26:33,279
not to be caught on our sensors but

628
00:26:37,269 --> 00:26:34,799
no proof of that just comments from

629
00:26:39,510 --> 00:26:37,279
people like will miller and other people

630
00:26:41,510 --> 00:26:39,520
then they go foreign adversary adversary

631
00:26:43,990 --> 00:26:41,520
systems some uap may be

632
00:26:46,149 --> 00:26:44,000
technologies deployed by china russia

633
00:26:49,269 --> 00:26:46,159
another nation or a non-governmental

634
00:26:50,549 --> 00:26:49,279
entity non-governmental entity what is

635
00:26:53,750 --> 00:26:50,559
that i mean

636
00:26:54,870 --> 00:26:53,760
just some civilians i mean just i mean

637
00:26:56,230 --> 00:26:54,880
yeah i guess it could be like a

638
00:26:57,909 --> 00:26:56,240
terrorist group that has

639
00:26:59,669 --> 00:26:57,919
you know rogue away has spoken about

640
00:27:02,950 --> 00:26:59,679
some of the drones

641
00:27:03,669 --> 00:27:02,960
um so then they go other which we care

642
00:27:05,669 --> 00:27:03,679
about

643
00:27:07,590 --> 00:27:05,679
although most of the of the uap

644
00:27:09,830 --> 00:27:07,600
described in our data set

645
00:27:11,510 --> 00:27:09,840
probably remain unidentified due to

646
00:27:14,070 --> 00:27:11,520
limited data

647
00:27:15,510 --> 00:27:14,080
or challenges to collection processing

648
00:27:18,070 --> 00:27:15,520
or analysis

649
00:27:20,389 --> 00:27:18,080
we may require additional scientific

650
00:27:23,029 --> 00:27:20,399
knowledge to successfully collect on

651
00:27:23,909 --> 00:27:23,039
analyze and characterize some of them we

652
00:27:25,990 --> 00:27:23,919
would group such

653
00:27:28,470 --> 00:27:26,000
objects in this character category

654
00:27:30,630 --> 00:27:28,480
pending scientific advances that allowed

655
00:27:32,789 --> 00:27:30,640
us to better understand them

656
00:27:33,750 --> 00:27:32,799
the uap task force intends to focus

657
00:27:36,070 --> 00:27:33,760
additional

658
00:27:38,389 --> 00:27:36,080
analysis on the small number of cases

659
00:27:39,750 --> 00:27:38,399
where a uap appeared to display unusual

660
00:27:43,110 --> 00:27:39,760
flight characteristics

661
00:27:46,470 --> 00:27:43,120
or signature management

662
00:27:50,389 --> 00:27:46,480
uap threatened flight safety

663
00:27:53,909 --> 00:27:50,399
uap threaten flight safety and possibly

664
00:27:56,789 --> 00:27:53,919
national security uap pose a hazard and

665
00:27:59,350 --> 00:27:56,799
we're on page six now of nine

666
00:28:01,269 --> 00:27:59,360
uap pose a hazard to safety of flight

667
00:28:02,310 --> 00:28:01,279
and could pose a broader danger if some

668
00:28:03,990 --> 00:28:02,320
instances

669
00:28:05,909 --> 00:28:04,000
represent sophisticated collection

670
00:28:06,870 --> 00:28:05,919
against us military activities by a

671
00:28:08,710 --> 00:28:06,880
foreign government

672
00:28:11,350 --> 00:28:08,720
or demonstrate a breakthrough aerospace

673
00:28:13,750 --> 00:28:11,360
technology by a potential adversary

674
00:28:16,070 --> 00:28:13,760
yeah i think the first possibility which

675
00:28:18,149 --> 00:28:16,080
tyler rogoway has written about a lot

676
00:28:19,110 --> 00:28:18,159
it's possible with some of these objects

677
00:28:20,870 --> 00:28:19,120
but

678
00:28:22,230 --> 00:28:20,880
i don't think russia or china has had

679
00:28:23,269 --> 00:28:22,240
any breakthroughs like this if we're

680
00:28:24,870 --> 00:28:23,279
talking about

681
00:28:26,549 --> 00:28:24,880
you know the ones that are taking off

682
00:28:29,590 --> 00:28:26,559
instantaneously

683
00:28:32,789 --> 00:28:29,600
five five observable territory

684
00:28:34,789 --> 00:28:32,799
ongoing aerospace concerns let's go

685
00:28:35,830 --> 00:28:34,799
check in on the chat just to make sure

686
00:28:41,590 --> 00:28:35,840
you guys are still

687
00:28:47,430 --> 00:28:44,870
still hear me okay

688
00:28:52,149 --> 00:28:47,440
and i will add in callers as soon as i'm

689
00:28:56,830 --> 00:28:53,350
all right i'll assume that you can still

690
00:29:03,269 --> 00:29:00,230
hopefully ongoing

691
00:29:05,110 --> 00:29:03,279
airspace concerns when aviators

692
00:29:06,789 --> 00:29:05,120
encounter safety hazards and i realize

693
00:29:07,110 --> 00:29:06,799
this is boring reading but i mean i want

694
00:29:08,870 --> 00:29:07,120
to

695
00:29:10,230 --> 00:29:08,880
get it on the record i'll read it

696
00:29:10,710 --> 00:29:10,240
especially people who are still having

697
00:29:13,269 --> 00:29:10,720
problems

698
00:29:15,190 --> 00:29:13,279
accessing the site when aviators

699
00:29:17,110 --> 00:29:15,200
encounter safety hazards they are

700
00:29:18,870 --> 00:29:17,120
required to report these concerns

701
00:29:20,389 --> 00:29:18,880
depending on the location volume and

702
00:29:23,510 --> 00:29:20,399
behavior of hazards during

703
00:29:25,830 --> 00:29:23,520
incursions on ranges pilots may

704
00:29:27,029 --> 00:29:25,840
cease their tests and or training to

705
00:29:28,549 --> 00:29:27,039
land their aircraft

706
00:29:31,590 --> 00:29:28,559
which has a deterrent effect on

707
00:29:34,389 --> 00:29:31,600
reporting the uap task force has 11

708
00:29:36,389 --> 00:29:34,399
reports of documented instant instances

709
00:29:37,750 --> 00:29:36,399
in which pilots reported near misses

710
00:29:39,029 --> 00:29:37,760
with a uap

711
00:29:40,870 --> 00:29:39,039
that alone you would think they would

712
00:29:42,470 --> 00:29:40,880
make this a priority

713
00:29:44,389 --> 00:29:42,480
shouldn't have taken this long to even

714
00:29:47,590 --> 00:29:44,399
to get to this point

715
00:29:49,029 --> 00:29:47,600
potential national security challenges

716
00:29:51,669 --> 00:29:49,039
how much you want to make it bet they

717
00:29:55,269 --> 00:29:51,679
don't discuss slide nine

718
00:29:57,830 --> 00:29:55,279
i'm being sarcastic we currently lack

719
00:29:59,669 --> 00:29:57,840
data to indicate any uap are part of a

720
00:30:01,029 --> 00:29:59,679
foreign collection program

721
00:30:02,789 --> 00:30:01,039
i mean that's a pretty big deal right

722
00:30:05,909 --> 00:30:02,799
here we currently lack

723
00:30:08,230 --> 00:30:05,919
data to indicate any uap

724
00:30:09,350 --> 00:30:08,240
are part of a foreign collection program

725
00:30:11,830 --> 00:30:09,360
or indeed

726
00:30:13,990 --> 00:30:11,840
indicative of a major technological

727
00:30:16,950 --> 00:30:14,000
advancement by a potential adversary

728
00:30:17,510 --> 00:30:16,960
in other words we don't have any data

729
00:30:20,630 --> 00:30:17,520
that to

730
00:30:21,430 --> 00:30:20,640
indicate that this is russia or china or

731
00:30:24,389 --> 00:30:21,440
whoever

732
00:30:26,710 --> 00:30:24,399
as far as foreign adversary we continue

733
00:30:28,230 --> 00:30:26,720
to monitor for evidence of such programs

734
00:30:31,190 --> 00:30:28,240
given the counter intelligence

735
00:30:33,350 --> 00:30:31,200
challenge they would pose particularly

736
00:30:35,909 --> 00:30:33,360
as some uap have been detected near

737
00:30:36,710 --> 00:30:35,919
military facilities or by aircraft

738
00:30:38,310 --> 00:30:36,720
carrying

739
00:30:40,149 --> 00:30:38,320
the united states government's most

740
00:30:42,070 --> 00:30:40,159
advanced sensor systems so in other

741
00:30:44,230 --> 00:30:42,080
words tyler rogoway's idea that this is

742
00:30:48,950 --> 00:30:44,240
russia and china soaking up our data

743
00:30:52,070 --> 00:30:48,960
they found no data to indicate that so

744
00:30:55,350 --> 00:30:52,080
that's important explaining uap

745
00:30:55,750 --> 00:30:55,360
will will require analytic collection

746
00:31:05,190 --> 00:30:55,760
and

747
00:31:07,269 --> 00:31:05,200
in line with the provisions of senate

748
00:31:11,269 --> 00:31:07,279
report blah blah blah accompanying the

749
00:31:13,350 --> 00:31:11,279
da da for fy 2021 the uap task force

750
00:31:15,430 --> 00:31:13,360
long-term goal is to widen the scope

751
00:31:16,950 --> 00:31:15,440
of its work to include additional uap

752
00:31:18,950 --> 00:31:16,960
events documented

753
00:31:20,389 --> 00:31:18,960
by a broader swath of united states

754
00:31:22,070 --> 00:31:20,399
government personnel and technical

755
00:31:24,870 --> 00:31:22,080
systems in its analysis

756
00:31:27,350 --> 00:31:24,880
as the data set increases the uap task

757
00:31:28,710 --> 00:31:27,360
force ability to employ data analytics

758
00:31:32,950 --> 00:31:28,720
to detect trends

759
00:31:35,269 --> 00:31:32,960
will also improve the initial focus will

760
00:31:38,870 --> 00:31:35,279
be to employ artificial intelligence

761
00:31:41,750 --> 00:31:38,880
machine learning algorithms to cluster

762
00:31:43,669 --> 00:31:41,760
and recognize similarities and patterns

763
00:31:45,350 --> 00:31:43,679
in features of the data points and

764
00:31:46,630 --> 00:31:45,360
that's the scout i think that's what the

765
00:31:47,590 --> 00:31:46,640
long is talking about with the scout

766
00:31:51,190 --> 00:31:47,600
program using

767
00:31:54,549 --> 00:31:51,200
ai to just focus on the important

768
00:31:55,830 --> 00:31:54,559
encounters and sightings as the date and

769
00:31:57,190 --> 00:31:55,840
i'm not saying they're using that same

770
00:31:59,269 --> 00:31:57,200
thing but that's something

771
00:32:00,310 --> 00:31:59,279
connected to ttsa which is not dead by

772
00:32:02,470 --> 00:32:00,320
the way or

773
00:32:04,389 --> 00:32:02,480
maybe on maybe on their final legs but i

774
00:32:05,590 --> 00:32:04,399
think their entertainment may save them

775
00:32:08,230 --> 00:32:05,600
financially

776
00:32:09,750 --> 00:32:08,240
as the database accumulates information

777
00:32:10,630 --> 00:32:09,760
from known aerial objects such as

778
00:32:13,669 --> 00:32:10,640
weather balloons

779
00:32:17,029 --> 00:32:13,679
high altitude or super pressure balloons

780
00:32:19,990 --> 00:32:17,039
and wildlife mick west

781
00:32:21,110 --> 00:32:20,000
seagulls machine learning can add

782
00:32:23,590 --> 00:32:21,120
efficiency

783
00:32:24,950 --> 00:32:23,600
by pre-assessing uap reports to see if

784
00:32:28,310 --> 00:32:24,960
those records match

785
00:32:30,230 --> 00:32:28,320
similar events already in the database

786
00:32:32,630 --> 00:32:30,240
the uap task force has begun to develop

787
00:32:34,470 --> 00:32:32,640
interagency analytical and processing

788
00:32:35,269 --> 00:32:34,480
workflows to ensure both collection and

789
00:32:38,710 --> 00:32:35,279
analysis

790
00:32:40,830 --> 00:32:38,720
will be well informed and coordinated

791
00:32:41,990 --> 00:32:40,840
the majority and we're on page seven of

792
00:32:44,149 --> 00:32:42,000
nine

793
00:32:46,149 --> 00:32:44,159
the majority of uap data is from united

794
00:32:46,789 --> 00:32:46,159
states navy reporting but efforts are

795
00:32:49,350 --> 00:32:46,799
underway

796
00:32:51,590 --> 00:32:49,360
to standardize incident reporting across

797
00:32:54,310 --> 00:32:51,600
united states military services

798
00:32:56,630 --> 00:32:54,320
very good thing and other government

799
00:32:57,269 --> 00:32:56,640
agencies to ensure all relevant data is

800
00:32:58,470 --> 00:32:57,279
captured

801
00:32:59,909 --> 00:32:58,480
of course that should have been going on

802
00:33:01,350 --> 00:32:59,919
now and it probably was we just don't

803
00:33:03,830 --> 00:33:01,360
know about that data

804
00:33:05,909 --> 00:33:03,840
with respect to particular incidents and

805
00:33:06,950 --> 00:33:05,919
any united states activities that might

806
00:33:09,029 --> 00:33:06,960
be relevant

807
00:33:10,950 --> 00:33:09,039
the uap task force is currently working

808
00:33:12,789 --> 00:33:10,960
to acquire additional reporting

809
00:33:14,470 --> 00:33:12,799
including from the united states air

810
00:33:17,350 --> 00:33:14,480
force and has begun receiving

811
00:33:18,389 --> 00:33:17,360
begun receiving data from the faa

812
00:33:23,110 --> 00:33:18,399
federal aviation

813
00:33:26,870 --> 00:33:24,950
this is all good but this you know this

814
00:33:28,310 --> 00:33:26,880
has been going on for the last 70 years

815
00:33:30,230 --> 00:33:28,320
so

816
00:33:32,230 --> 00:33:30,240
and they have data already stored in

817
00:33:35,190 --> 00:33:32,240
warehouses according to jeremy corbell

818
00:33:35,990 --> 00:33:35,200
and dr eric davis so we need to get that

819
00:33:37,590 --> 00:33:36,000
stuff

820
00:33:39,430 --> 00:33:37,600
although united states air force data

821
00:33:39,750 --> 00:33:39,440
collection has been limited historically

822
00:33:44,710 --> 00:33:39,760
by

823
00:33:46,149 --> 00:33:44,720
let me start again although united

824
00:33:48,789 --> 00:33:46,159
states air force data collection has

825
00:33:51,269 --> 00:33:48,799
been limited historically by

826
00:33:52,549 --> 00:33:51,279
limited historically the u.s air force

827
00:33:55,190 --> 00:33:52,559
began a six-month

828
00:33:56,789 --> 00:33:55,200
pilot program this is brand new the

829
00:34:00,389 --> 00:33:56,799
united states air force began a

830
00:34:03,029 --> 00:34:00,399
six-month pilot program in november 2020

831
00:34:04,710 --> 00:34:03,039
to collect in the most likely areas to

832
00:34:06,630 --> 00:34:04,720
encounter uap

833
00:34:08,310 --> 00:34:06,640
and is evaluating how to normalize

834
00:34:11,589 --> 00:34:08,320
future collection reporting

835
00:34:14,629 --> 00:34:11,599
and analysis across the entire air force

836
00:34:15,669 --> 00:34:14,639
that's you know the air force has been

837
00:34:17,990 --> 00:34:15,679
so quiet i know

838
00:34:20,310 --> 00:34:18,000
behind the scenes pilots have been

839
00:34:23,270 --> 00:34:20,320
sharing some of their experiences

840
00:34:25,030 --> 00:34:23,280
um but that's that's new information

841
00:34:27,109 --> 00:34:25,040
that they have a pilot program and

842
00:34:28,310 --> 00:34:27,119
let's see what they come up with you

843
00:34:29,909 --> 00:34:28,320
know because they're everywhere it's not

844
00:34:32,790 --> 00:34:29,919
just out over the ocean

845
00:34:34,230 --> 00:34:32,800
um we'd love to see what kind of data

846
00:34:35,990 --> 00:34:34,240
they've collected so far you know that

847
00:34:38,470 --> 00:34:36,000
started november of 2020

848
00:34:40,069 --> 00:34:38,480
the faa captures data related to uap

849
00:34:41,589 --> 00:34:40,079
during the normal courses of managing

850
00:34:45,270 --> 00:34:41,599
air traffic operations

851
00:34:47,430 --> 00:34:45,280
the faa faa generally ingests this data

852
00:34:49,030 --> 00:34:47,440
when pilots and other airspace users

853
00:34:52,069 --> 00:34:49,040
report unusual or expect

854
00:34:52,869 --> 00:34:52,079
unexpected events to the faa air traffic

855
00:34:55,109 --> 00:34:52,879
organization

856
00:34:56,550 --> 00:34:55,119
and tyler rogoway has done fantastic

857
00:34:58,230 --> 00:34:56,560
work on that

858
00:35:00,550 --> 00:34:58,240
getting some of the audios from some of

859
00:35:01,670 --> 00:35:00,560
those ufo reports from i think the last

860
00:35:04,230 --> 00:35:01,680
one was united

861
00:35:05,430 --> 00:35:04,240
airlines in addition the faa

862
00:35:07,990 --> 00:35:05,440
continuously monitors

863
00:35:09,910 --> 00:35:08,000
monitors its systems for anomalies

864
00:35:11,349 --> 00:35:09,920
generating additional information that

865
00:35:14,950 --> 00:35:11,359
may be of use to the uap

866
00:35:17,109 --> 00:35:14,960
task force the more data the better

867
00:35:19,030 --> 00:35:17,119
the faa is able to isolate data of

868
00:35:19,910 --> 00:35:19,040
interest to the uap task force and make

869
00:35:22,069 --> 00:35:19,920
it available

870
00:35:23,670 --> 00:35:22,079
the faa has a robust and effective

871
00:35:26,069 --> 00:35:23,680
outreach program that can help

872
00:35:27,829 --> 00:35:26,079
the uap task force reach members of the

873
00:35:29,670 --> 00:35:27,839
aviation community to highlight the

874
00:35:33,670 --> 00:35:29,680
importance of reporting

875
00:35:35,910 --> 00:35:33,680
uap so

876
00:35:37,670 --> 00:35:35,920
still page seven but we're ending coming

877
00:35:39,990 --> 00:35:37,680
to the end of page seven

878
00:35:44,710 --> 00:35:40,000
ignore the background noise because

879
00:35:46,630 --> 00:35:44,720
that's fine

880
00:35:48,790 --> 00:35:46,640
the uap task force i need to put my dog

881
00:35:51,109 --> 00:35:48,800
on camera like linda molten howe

882
00:35:52,710 --> 00:35:51,119
and then i could i won't share that

883
00:35:53,190 --> 00:35:52,720
story i don't think you guys know that

884
00:35:54,550 --> 00:35:53,200
story but

885
00:35:55,910 --> 00:35:54,560
maybe you do when linda moulton how has

886
00:35:57,990 --> 00:35:55,920
talked about how she got her cat in a

887
00:36:00,390 --> 00:35:58,000
portal he showed up after he died

888
00:36:02,150 --> 00:36:00,400
died and she's on the bed explaining

889
00:36:03,349 --> 00:36:02,160
it's very odd in a hotel room with grant

890
00:36:05,750 --> 00:36:03,359
cameron

891
00:36:07,030 --> 00:36:05,760
um i saw that when i was in laughlin i

892
00:36:09,349 --> 00:36:07,040
may have seen it originally when it was

893
00:36:11,670 --> 00:36:09,359
first posted but anyway i'm off track

894
00:36:13,510 --> 00:36:11,680
the uap task force is looking for novel

895
00:36:15,589 --> 00:36:13,520
ways to increase collection of uap

896
00:36:16,630 --> 00:36:15,599
cluster areas when united states forces

897
00:36:19,430 --> 00:36:16,640
are not present

898
00:36:20,230 --> 00:36:19,440
or a way to baseline standard uap tech

899
00:36:22,310 --> 00:36:20,240
activity

900
00:36:24,150 --> 00:36:22,320
and mitigate the collection bias in the

901
00:36:26,390 --> 00:36:24,160
data set

902
00:36:27,190 --> 00:36:26,400
one proposal is to use advanced

903
00:36:31,750 --> 00:36:27,200
algorithm

904
00:36:32,950 --> 00:36:31,760
captured and stored by radars here we go

905
00:36:35,349 --> 00:36:32,960
that's what we need

906
00:36:36,950 --> 00:36:35,359
historical data that's where we have a

907
00:36:38,950 --> 00:36:36,960
ton of data

908
00:36:40,870 --> 00:36:38,960
and use algorithms to search that

909
00:36:43,190 --> 00:36:40,880
historical data

910
00:36:45,030 --> 00:36:43,200
captured and stored by radars that's a

911
00:36:46,630 --> 00:36:45,040
big deal and that could be done

912
00:36:49,190 --> 00:36:46,640
that could be done get those programs

913
00:36:51,030 --> 00:36:49,200
going show us what they collected

914
00:36:52,950 --> 00:36:51,040
of course if it's in a special access

915
00:36:55,430 --> 00:36:52,960
program that's another story

916
00:36:57,190 --> 00:36:55,440
the uap task force also plans to update

917
00:36:59,510 --> 00:36:57,200
its current interagency uap

918
00:37:01,510 --> 00:36:59,520
collection strategy to in order to bring

919
00:37:02,950 --> 00:37:01,520
to bear relevant collection platforms

920
00:37:07,349 --> 00:37:02,960
and methods from the dod

921
00:37:11,349 --> 00:37:09,270
increase investment in research and

922
00:37:13,510 --> 00:37:11,359
development finally make it permanent

923
00:37:15,349 --> 00:37:13,520
the uap task force has indicated that

924
00:37:17,750 --> 00:37:15,359
additional funding

925
00:37:18,390 --> 00:37:17,760
yes for research and development could

926
00:37:22,790 --> 00:37:18,400
further

927
00:37:25,430 --> 00:37:22,800
the topics laid out in this report

928
00:37:26,069 --> 00:37:25,440
such investments should be guided by a

929
00:37:36,390 --> 00:37:26,079
uap

930
00:37:38,550 --> 00:37:36,400
program plan

931
00:37:40,630 --> 00:37:38,560
we are in i think that's it we're in

932
00:37:43,030 --> 00:37:40,640
page eight it's appendix a definition of

933
00:37:48,630 --> 00:37:43,040
terms uap we know uap event

934
00:37:54,950 --> 00:37:52,950
appendix b goes through the report how

935
00:37:58,790 --> 00:37:54,960
it was

936
00:38:00,310 --> 00:37:58,800
asked for which we've seen before

937
00:38:02,829 --> 00:38:00,320
geospatial intelligence signals

938
00:38:05,990 --> 00:38:02,839
intelligence human intelligence

939
00:38:06,630 --> 00:38:06,000
um yeah i don't need to read that it's

940
00:38:09,510 --> 00:38:06,640
just

941
00:38:12,069 --> 00:38:09,520
so that's it it it is a nothing burger

942
00:38:14,069 --> 00:38:12,079
for the most part i mean

943
00:38:16,230 --> 00:38:14,079
but like i said i'm not disappointed but

944
00:38:17,670 --> 00:38:16,240
the air force information is new

945
00:38:21,589 --> 00:38:17,680
and i'm going to send out the link so

946
00:38:33,990 --> 00:38:25,750
you guys can join in and express your

947
00:38:38,710 --> 00:38:37,430
disappointing to most report so there's

948
00:38:43,990 --> 00:38:38,720
the

949
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:48,630
i'll put it out on twitter too

950
00:38:52,150 --> 00:38:50,069
i know that was boring but i wanted to

951
00:38:53,990 --> 00:38:52,160
get that done and i was

952
00:38:58,829 --> 00:38:54,000
i was reading it as you guys learned

953
00:38:58,839 --> 00:39:13,190
twitter

954
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:17,190
give me a second

955
00:39:29,030 --> 00:39:21,030
and or this appointment with

956
00:39:33,750 --> 00:39:29,040
the report

957
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:38,390
really curious to see what lou

958
00:39:42,150 --> 00:39:40,150
has to say about this i would think he

959
00:39:44,150 --> 00:39:42,160
would comment pretty soon if he hasn't

960
00:39:45,589 --> 00:39:44,160
already if anybody sees that let me know

961
00:39:54,829 --> 00:39:45,599
and call in and let me know

962
00:39:54,839 --> 00:39:59,670
this

963
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:09,109
just give me a second and that is there

964
00:40:13,270 --> 00:40:10,150
all right let me add some of the

965
00:40:16,790 --> 00:40:13,280
hopefully there's chris i will add chris

966
00:40:19,990 --> 00:40:16,800
and omega and

967
00:40:22,710 --> 00:40:20,000
bad you guys are both there

968
00:40:23,109 --> 00:40:22,720
thanks for coming on omega and chris no

969
00:40:25,670 --> 00:40:23,119
problem

970
00:40:26,470 --> 00:40:25,680
oh let me put my audio up not going to

971
00:40:29,990 --> 00:40:26,480
hear me

972
00:40:31,190 --> 00:40:30,000
do you think i can hear you

973
00:40:33,589 --> 00:40:31,200
what do you think about the nothing

974
00:40:35,349 --> 00:40:33,599
burger it wasn't that bad

975
00:40:37,270 --> 00:40:35,359
no it wasn't it wasn't that bad i mean

976
00:40:39,030 --> 00:40:37,280
like i said i'm not disappointed

977
00:40:40,870 --> 00:40:39,040
because i had my expectations and i'm

978
00:40:41,750 --> 00:40:40,880
not i'm not one to normally lower my

979
00:40:43,829 --> 00:40:41,760
expectations

980
00:40:45,349 --> 00:40:43,839
because last you know last year i was

981
00:40:46,630 --> 00:40:45,359
the opposite i hyped the hell out of the

982
00:40:47,270 --> 00:40:46,640
new york times and when it came out and

983
00:40:49,190 --> 00:40:47,280
i read

984
00:40:50,710 --> 00:40:49,200
the article i was like no really where's

985
00:40:52,950 --> 00:40:50,720
the real article this is not the real

986
00:40:54,470 --> 00:40:52,960
article so yeah but like i said a couple

987
00:40:56,069 --> 00:40:54,480
of months ago i was told

988
00:40:57,190 --> 00:40:56,079
the plan was not even to have a public

989
00:40:57,670 --> 00:40:57,200
report there were certain people that

990
00:40:58,950 --> 00:40:57,680
didn't

991
00:41:00,710 --> 00:40:58,960
not want it to come out i don't want to

992
00:41:01,270 --> 00:41:00,720
say who those people were but i was like

993
00:41:04,150 --> 00:41:01,280
really

994
00:41:06,390 --> 00:41:04,160
they said you know what that was

995
00:41:07,030 --> 00:41:06,400
inaccurate information but some people

996
00:41:09,750 --> 00:41:07,040
are going to say

997
00:41:10,630 --> 00:41:09,760
what we saw was really nothing you know

998
00:41:14,870 --> 00:41:10,640
substantive

999
00:41:16,550 --> 00:41:14,880
because i've shared with you privately

1000
00:41:20,230 --> 00:41:16,560
and i've shared with omega too that

1001
00:41:23,190 --> 00:41:20,240
i'm aware that the homeland security was

1002
00:41:25,109 --> 00:41:23,200
had to give up their goods so i'm i'm

1003
00:41:26,550 --> 00:41:25,119
bummed that it was not included but i

1004
00:41:27,589 --> 00:41:26,560
understand obviously for future

1005
00:41:29,750 --> 00:41:27,599
reporting

1006
00:41:31,589 --> 00:41:29,760
that that is a possibility so we're

1007
00:41:33,270 --> 00:41:31,599
going to have

1008
00:41:34,630 --> 00:41:33,280
if anybody's going to collect a lot of

1009
00:41:37,910 --> 00:41:34,640
data that would be them

1010
00:41:39,910 --> 00:41:37,920
in my opinion right and then it was

1011
00:41:41,990 --> 00:41:39,920
it was one another one that lou had

1012
00:41:43,349 --> 00:41:42,000
mentioned uh border customs and

1013
00:41:45,109 --> 00:41:43,359
border control which i didn't really i'm

1014
00:41:47,030 --> 00:41:45,119
like really border but then i'm thinking

1015
00:41:49,829 --> 00:41:47,040
aguadilla because

1016
00:41:50,309 --> 00:41:49,839
well they fall under ghs so yeah i mean

1017
00:41:57,990 --> 00:41:50,319
they

1018
00:42:01,349 --> 00:41:58,000
are you there omega you're there now

1019
00:42:04,390 --> 00:42:01,359
yep i'm here what do you think um

1020
00:42:06,950 --> 00:42:04,400
so at first when i was reading it i

1021
00:42:08,230 --> 00:42:06,960
felt like it was i hate that word but

1022
00:42:10,870 --> 00:42:08,240
the nothing burger

1023
00:42:12,390 --> 00:42:10,880
but now i see it as an attempted nothing

1024
00:42:14,230 --> 00:42:12,400
burger but there's definitely

1025
00:42:15,589 --> 00:42:14,240
some some nuggets that are in there i

1026
00:42:16,470 --> 00:42:15,599
mean i think the thing that popped out

1027
00:42:18,309 --> 00:42:16,480
to me

1028
00:42:19,510 --> 00:42:18,319
first and foremost was on the other

1029
00:42:21,190 --> 00:42:19,520
category

1030
00:42:23,589 --> 00:42:21,200
when it goes into the the second

1031
00:42:25,349 --> 00:42:23,599
description the more detailed the other

1032
00:42:26,710 --> 00:42:25,359
uh the more detailed description of the

1033
00:42:28,950 --> 00:42:26,720
other category

1034
00:42:30,470 --> 00:42:28,960
it says that they put things in there

1035
00:42:34,950 --> 00:42:30,480
that they may need

1036
00:42:38,150 --> 00:42:34,960
advances in science to understand

1037
00:42:39,910 --> 00:42:38,160
um which seems very different from

1038
00:42:42,550 --> 00:42:39,920
what they characterized it as in the

1039
00:42:44,069 --> 00:42:42,560
beginning as a catch-all bin

1040
00:42:45,589 --> 00:42:44,079
if it's a catch-all bin it seems like

1041
00:42:46,870 --> 00:42:45,599
everything belongs in the catch-all bin

1042
00:42:48,309 --> 00:42:46,880
right now because they only have one

1043
00:42:50,230 --> 00:42:48,319
thing that

1044
00:42:52,230 --> 00:42:50,240
they were able to identify with high

1045
00:42:53,510 --> 00:42:52,240
confidence and it was a deflated balloon

1046
00:42:55,829 --> 00:42:53,520
so it seems like

1047
00:42:57,510 --> 00:42:55,839
uh from that perspective they've left

1048
00:42:59,190 --> 00:42:57,520
everything on the table

1049
00:43:01,430 --> 00:42:59,200
but that other category seems really

1050
00:43:03,430 --> 00:43:01,440
interesting especially the bit about

1051
00:43:04,470 --> 00:43:03,440
needing advances in in science to

1052
00:43:06,309 --> 00:43:04,480
understand

1053
00:43:08,069 --> 00:43:06,319
that's huge and then also the other

1054
00:43:09,910 --> 00:43:08,079
thing that really stuck out to me

1055
00:43:11,349 --> 00:43:09,920
was saying that they had no data to

1056
00:43:12,790 --> 00:43:11,359
support and i know that you pointed this

1057
00:43:14,710 --> 00:43:12,800
out as well as you were reading

1058
00:43:16,150 --> 00:43:14,720
they had no data at this point to

1059
00:43:18,150 --> 00:43:16,160
support

1060
00:43:19,349 --> 00:43:18,160
that any of this technology was

1061
00:43:22,710 --> 00:43:19,359
adversarial

1062
00:43:24,790 --> 00:43:22,720
um so that that's really interesting and

1063
00:43:26,550 --> 00:43:24,800
uh obviously that getting the faa

1064
00:43:27,430 --> 00:43:26,560
involved is huge and that's something

1065
00:43:29,910 --> 00:43:27,440
we've been

1066
00:43:31,109 --> 00:43:29,920
clamoring for um finding out about the

1067
00:43:34,470 --> 00:43:31,119
air force

1068
00:43:36,630 --> 00:43:34,480
pilot program is great yeah

1069
00:43:38,870 --> 00:43:36,640
so i'm i'm excited by this i think it's

1070
00:43:41,030 --> 00:43:38,880
just a first step

1071
00:43:42,790 --> 00:43:41,040
and and i think that there's lots more

1072
00:43:45,270 --> 00:43:42,800
to come it seems like

1073
00:43:46,230 --> 00:43:45,280
you know it's it's it's funny because oh

1074
00:43:49,510 --> 00:43:46,240
i am

1075
00:43:50,790 --> 00:43:49,520
usually i will i will my first response

1076
00:43:53,109 --> 00:43:50,800
is always like

1077
00:43:54,630 --> 00:43:53,119
tempered but then as time goes on

1078
00:43:55,990 --> 00:43:54,640
sometimes i'll get like i was mad at the

1079
00:43:56,950 --> 00:43:56,000
the new york times report but then as

1080
00:43:58,230 --> 00:43:56,960
time went on i'm like there's some

1081
00:43:58,790 --> 00:43:58,240
really good stuff in here and what you

1082
00:44:00,630 --> 00:43:58,800
just said

1083
00:44:02,150 --> 00:44:00,640
yeah and i just read it they basically

1084
00:44:03,430 --> 00:44:02,160
said there's no data this is this is

1085
00:44:05,430 --> 00:44:03,440
foreign adversarial

1086
00:44:06,710 --> 00:44:05,440
and there are there are people that will

1087
00:44:08,710 --> 00:44:06,720
say that's because they're not they

1088
00:44:11,349 --> 00:44:08,720
don't know about advanced drones yeah

1089
00:44:12,710 --> 00:44:11,359
our government the most advanced

1090
00:44:13,670 --> 00:44:12,720
military on the work in the world

1091
00:44:15,109 --> 00:44:13,680
doesn't doesn't know

1092
00:44:17,030 --> 00:44:15,119
all the advanced technology that

1093
00:44:18,790 --> 00:44:17,040
technology is out there they need to

1094
00:44:20,390 --> 00:44:18,800
they need to ask tyler rogoway

1095
00:44:22,230 --> 00:44:20,400
so they can be educated about it you

1096
00:44:25,190 --> 00:44:22,240
know it's like so that was a great

1097
00:44:26,470 --> 00:44:25,200
yeah that was a great part and i just

1098
00:44:30,150 --> 00:44:26,480
added in

1099
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:35,589
jump in guys you guys are unmuted as of

1100
00:44:41,750 --> 00:44:38,710
now

1101
00:44:46,790 --> 00:44:41,760
think you have to unmute your

1102
00:44:53,270 --> 00:44:50,870
sorry um

1103
00:44:56,069 --> 00:44:53,280
yeah you guys are unmuted now omega is

1104
00:44:57,349 --> 00:44:56,079
muted back right now

1105
00:44:59,430 --> 00:44:57,359
just tuning in to hear what you're

1106
00:45:00,710 --> 00:44:59,440
saying yeah feel free to what do you

1107
00:45:01,750 --> 00:45:00,720
think did you get to see that you get to

1108
00:45:02,950 --> 00:45:01,760
read it or did you get to hear what i

1109
00:45:05,190 --> 00:45:02,960
had this you know i read it

1110
00:45:07,030 --> 00:45:05,200
all i was walking the dog when i was

1111
00:45:10,069 --> 00:45:07,040
reading it but yeah they uh

1112
00:45:11,190 --> 00:45:10,079
it seemed like uh it seemed like it was

1113
00:45:13,109 --> 00:45:11,200
an obligatory

1114
00:45:14,870 --> 00:45:13,119
thing that they they had to publish

1115
00:45:19,510 --> 00:45:14,880
without really giving any

1116
00:45:22,630 --> 00:45:19,520
real information that nothing new

1117
00:45:23,670 --> 00:45:22,640
nothing new except it is a good as omega

1118
00:45:25,270 --> 00:45:23,680
brought up

1119
00:45:27,430 --> 00:45:25,280
they said they had no data that it was

1120
00:45:28,150 --> 00:45:27,440
foreign adversarial and i did i did not

1121
00:45:32,309 --> 00:45:28,160
expect that

1122
00:45:33,910 --> 00:45:32,319
would say we suspect some of this may be

1123
00:45:36,069 --> 00:45:33,920
foreign adversarial

1124
00:45:37,670 --> 00:45:36,079
and then they also said they couldn't

1125
00:45:39,030 --> 00:45:37,680
they haven't totally ruled out that some

1126
00:45:42,230 --> 00:45:39,040
of this is our technology

1127
00:45:45,349 --> 00:45:42,240
um but none of the 100

1128
00:45:46,950 --> 00:45:45,359
whatever it was you know incidents

1129
00:45:48,790 --> 00:45:46,960
they they don't feel that any of those

1130
00:45:49,910 --> 00:45:48,800
are there's no data to connect it to our

1131
00:45:51,430 --> 00:45:49,920
technology so

1132
00:45:53,430 --> 00:45:51,440
there's some good things in there in the

1133
00:45:56,550 --> 00:45:53,440
in the air force report too

1134
00:45:57,589 --> 00:45:56,560
the air force report their pilot program

1135
00:46:00,710 --> 00:45:57,599
that started in

1136
00:46:02,150 --> 00:46:00,720
late 220 late 2020 is something i had no

1137
00:46:03,109 --> 00:46:02,160
none of us knew as far as i know i've

1138
00:46:04,950 --> 00:46:03,119
never heard that

1139
00:46:06,470 --> 00:46:04,960
i knew behind the scenes air force guys

1140
00:46:09,589 --> 00:46:06,480
were talking

1141
00:46:11,670 --> 00:46:09,599
but you know i did not

1142
00:46:14,069 --> 00:46:11,680
know it was good to see them acknowledge

1143
00:46:17,430 --> 00:46:14,079
that there was multiple

1144
00:46:21,109 --> 00:46:17,440
forms of data and eyewitness data

1145
00:46:23,349 --> 00:46:21,119
uh correlating to some of the uh

1146
00:46:24,230 --> 00:46:23,359
reports so i think that was important

1147
00:46:27,270 --> 00:46:24,240
for them to say

1148
00:46:29,670 --> 00:46:27,280
because folks like the

1149
00:46:30,390 --> 00:46:29,680
that television science guy has been

1150
00:46:33,829 --> 00:46:30,400
coming out

1151
00:46:35,750 --> 00:46:33,839
and saying that uh that court

1152
00:46:37,589 --> 00:46:35,760
kind of correlation didn't seem to exist

1153
00:46:38,390 --> 00:46:37,599
and this report is saying that it does

1154
00:46:39,750 --> 00:46:38,400
exist

1155
00:46:41,589 --> 00:46:39,760
which science guy do you know you

1156
00:46:42,550 --> 00:46:41,599
remember who you're talking uh he was

1157
00:46:45,990 --> 00:46:42,560
just on uh

1158
00:46:50,150 --> 00:46:46,000
bill maher a week ago uh

1159
00:46:54,390 --> 00:46:50,160
i can't remember his name it's uh tyson

1160
00:46:57,190 --> 00:46:54,400
oh tyson of course his name is good

1161
00:46:58,470 --> 00:46:57,200
last last name is tyson neil degrasse

1162
00:47:01,829 --> 00:46:58,480
tyson yeah yeah

1163
00:47:05,430 --> 00:47:01,839
what do you think pegasus well joe

1164
00:47:08,870 --> 00:47:05,440
excuse me uh certainly uh interesting

1165
00:47:15,589 --> 00:47:12,390
how are you we're good uh yeah

1166
00:47:15,910 --> 00:47:15,599
now in our background um i can confident

1167
00:47:19,430 --> 00:47:15,920
with

1168
00:47:21,910 --> 00:47:19,440
we're actually looking

1169
00:47:23,829 --> 00:47:21,920
at two separate things here one yeah

1170
00:47:26,230 --> 00:47:23,839
ultra terrestrial

1171
00:47:27,270 --> 00:47:26,240
the second is the extraterrestrial

1172
00:47:30,150 --> 00:47:27,280
aspect

1173
00:47:32,549 --> 00:47:30,160
now they can bury it underneath this uh

1174
00:47:35,589 --> 00:47:32,559
alien reproduction vehicle stuff

1175
00:47:37,829 --> 00:47:35,599
but um you know us

1176
00:47:39,670 --> 00:47:37,839
personally we have a completely

1177
00:47:42,950 --> 00:47:39,680
different opinion about

1178
00:47:44,309 --> 00:47:42,960
um what's going on out there and

1179
00:47:46,950 --> 00:47:44,319
do you mind do you mind if i tell people

1180
00:47:49,109 --> 00:47:46,960
who you are they're listening to

1181
00:47:50,309 --> 00:47:49,119
so this is mike this is michael so i

1182
00:47:50,790 --> 00:47:50,319
haven't heard from michael in a while

1183
00:47:52,549 --> 00:47:50,800
and

1184
00:47:53,910 --> 00:47:52,559
i kind of owed you texts or a phone call

1185
00:47:55,589 --> 00:47:53,920
but i haven't heard from in a while this

1186
00:47:58,309 --> 00:47:55,599
is michael and cindy

1187
00:48:00,150 --> 00:47:58,319
um and michael was on twitter for a

1188
00:48:02,630 --> 00:48:00,160
while a lot of you guys know him

1189
00:48:04,230 --> 00:48:02,640
and um really one of the most

1190
00:48:06,390 --> 00:48:04,240
interesting people i've ever

1191
00:48:08,069 --> 00:48:06,400
encountered basically interesting

1192
00:48:09,190 --> 00:48:08,079
background oh yeah thank you for that

1193
00:48:11,990 --> 00:48:09,200
joe we uh

1194
00:48:12,390 --> 00:48:12,000
we uh caught a lot of heat here a while

1195
00:48:15,510 --> 00:48:12,400
back

1196
00:48:17,750 --> 00:48:15,520
and uh we decided to uh

1197
00:48:19,270 --> 00:48:17,760
step away for a while uh cindy and i are

1198
00:48:20,470 --> 00:48:19,280
heading to long island tomorrow by the

1199
00:48:22,790 --> 00:48:20,480
way

1200
00:48:23,589 --> 00:48:22,800
we're going to pay a visit to some old

1201
00:48:26,710 --> 00:48:23,599
friends

1202
00:48:28,069 --> 00:48:26,720
and take a walk down memory lane if you

1203
00:48:31,190 --> 00:48:28,079
will

1204
00:48:34,549 --> 00:48:31,200
and maybe look back and reassess

1205
00:48:36,790 --> 00:48:34,559
our position with regard to

1206
00:48:39,030 --> 00:48:36,800
speaking out more vocally about some of

1207
00:48:42,470 --> 00:48:39,040
the things that we've experienced

1208
00:48:42,790 --> 00:48:42,480
so there's cindy pointed out i want to

1209
00:48:46,230 --> 00:48:42,800
point

1210
00:48:47,750 --> 00:48:46,240
out this report is just the beginning

1211
00:48:50,470 --> 00:48:47,760
there is a ton of stuff

1212
00:48:51,750 --> 00:48:50,480
in the pipeline and it all has to start

1213
00:48:54,710 --> 00:48:51,760
somewhere

1214
00:48:56,870 --> 00:48:54,720
and this is as good a place as any i i

1215
00:48:58,390 --> 00:48:56,880
take my hat off the guys like uh luis

1216
00:49:01,510 --> 00:48:58,400
elizondo

1217
00:49:03,270 --> 00:49:01,520
uh tpsa who kind of got the ball rolling

1218
00:49:06,390 --> 00:49:03,280
a few mishaps along the way

1219
00:49:08,150 --> 00:49:06,400
but um the

1220
00:49:10,390 --> 00:49:08,160
the dimensions of the dialogue are

1221
00:49:14,309 --> 00:49:10,400
changing in a good way

1222
00:49:17,589 --> 00:49:14,319
they need to um from a

1223
00:49:18,150 --> 00:49:17,599
a human standpoint um our experience has

1224
00:49:21,109 --> 00:49:18,160
taught us

1225
00:49:24,309 --> 00:49:21,119
that um this planet is very important to

1226
00:49:27,109 --> 00:49:24,319
some of the agencies that are involved

1227
00:49:29,030 --> 00:49:27,119
and i'm not talking human agencies and

1228
00:49:29,670 --> 00:49:29,040
it's always been our contention cindy

1229
00:49:31,750 --> 00:49:29,680
and my

1230
00:49:33,510 --> 00:49:31,760
intention that disclosure as we

1231
00:49:36,470 --> 00:49:33,520
understand the term

1232
00:49:37,349 --> 00:49:36,480
is out of human hands now we may be able

1233
00:49:38,950 --> 00:49:37,359
to guide it

1234
00:49:40,790 --> 00:49:38,960
but we are not going to be the authors

1235
00:49:43,349 --> 00:49:40,800
of it and

1236
00:49:45,030 --> 00:49:43,359
i am you know my history and you know

1237
00:49:46,870 --> 00:49:45,040
what happened to us

1238
00:49:48,230 --> 00:49:46,880
yeah and i really want hopefully i get

1239
00:49:49,589 --> 00:49:48,240
people to hear your history

1240
00:49:51,510 --> 00:49:49,599
now that i could do now i feel more

1241
00:49:53,750 --> 00:49:51,520
comfortable doing live shows which i was

1242
00:49:54,549 --> 00:49:53,760
afraid i was chicken and [\h__\h] to do in

1243
00:49:56,069 --> 00:49:54,559
the past

1244
00:49:57,430 --> 00:49:56,079
and i delayed so many times we could

1245
00:49:58,790 --> 00:49:57,440
definitely want to hear your story in

1246
00:50:00,950 --> 00:49:58,800
the future

1247
00:50:03,109 --> 00:50:00,960
cindy and i are not public speakers but

1248
00:50:05,030 --> 00:50:03,119
we do have backgrounds that i think can

1249
00:50:07,349 --> 00:50:05,040
add to the conversation

1250
00:50:08,390 --> 00:50:07,359
we've had experiences but i think first

1251
00:50:11,510 --> 00:50:08,400
off you know that

1252
00:50:13,349 --> 00:50:11,520
they are authentic um

1253
00:50:14,710 --> 00:50:13,359
i think that they'll have some value if

1254
00:50:18,950 --> 00:50:14,720
nothing else then

1255
00:50:20,790 --> 00:50:18,960
to add to the dialogue and um

1256
00:50:22,870 --> 00:50:20,800
you know we're concerned about our our

1257
00:50:26,390 --> 00:50:22,880
identities about being exposed because

1258
00:50:27,910 --> 00:50:26,400
we've lived very human lives and um

1259
00:50:29,829 --> 00:50:27,920
we've done some sketchy [\h__\h] in our

1260
00:50:32,549 --> 00:50:29,839
world so

1261
00:50:34,710 --> 00:50:32,559
uh there's a element of risk involved we

1262
00:50:36,309 --> 00:50:34,720
like our anonymity we like

1263
00:50:37,829 --> 00:50:36,319
people not knowing where we live

1264
00:50:39,510 --> 00:50:37,839
although there's a handful of people out

1265
00:50:41,270 --> 00:50:39,520
there who do

1266
00:50:43,109 --> 00:50:41,280
and we've discussed some of these

1267
00:50:44,790 --> 00:50:43,119
elements before and

1268
00:50:46,470 --> 00:50:44,800
uh cindy and i have both expressed our

1269
00:50:48,790 --> 00:50:46,480
concerns about them

1270
00:50:50,150 --> 00:50:48,800
but i think this report really is it's a

1271
00:50:51,750 --> 00:50:50,160
lot bigger than it

1272
00:50:53,430 --> 00:50:51,760
you can call it a nothing burger i'm not

1273
00:50:57,990 --> 00:50:53,440
sure what a nothing burger is

1274
00:51:01,670 --> 00:50:58,000
probably a roll with no hamburger in it

1275
00:51:06,069 --> 00:51:03,349
i got to tell you just we live in

1276
00:51:07,670 --> 00:51:06,079
exciting times and

1277
00:51:09,829 --> 00:51:07,680
this like i said it's just the beginning

1278
00:51:11,190 --> 00:51:09,839
wait till you see what lewis elizondo

1279
00:51:13,750 --> 00:51:11,200
has to say

1280
00:51:14,549 --> 00:51:13,760
and there i want you to know this too

1281
00:51:16,710 --> 00:51:14,559
that there are

1282
00:51:17,589 --> 00:51:16,720
people in the background waiting to

1283
00:51:20,549 --> 00:51:17,599
stand up

1284
00:51:21,990 --> 00:51:20,559
and step forward at the right time and

1285
00:51:23,510 --> 00:51:22,000
just let people know who who

1286
00:51:25,670 --> 00:51:23,520
are some of the friends that you have

1287
00:51:27,270 --> 00:51:25,680
you know well

1288
00:51:29,030 --> 00:51:27,280
um we live in a community where there's

1289
00:51:32,069 --> 00:51:29,040
a lot of retired military

1290
00:51:37,349 --> 00:51:32,079
a lot of active duty federal uh

1291
00:51:42,870 --> 00:51:41,109
and one guy

1292
00:51:45,349 --> 00:51:42,880
strategic air command another guy

1293
00:51:47,510 --> 00:51:45,359
retired army ranger

1294
00:51:49,670 --> 00:51:47,520
you know my background right military

1295
00:51:53,589 --> 00:51:49,680
service army and marines

1296
00:51:54,870 --> 00:51:53,599
and um and what's the word from some of

1297
00:51:57,430 --> 00:51:54,880
these folks

1298
00:51:58,150 --> 00:51:57,440
well first off uh it's a it's not a

1299
00:52:02,230 --> 00:51:58,160
phenomena

1300
00:52:04,230 --> 00:52:02,240
as much as it is of a reality

1301
00:52:06,790 --> 00:52:04,240
we are being visited by both

1302
00:52:11,190 --> 00:52:06,800
extraterrestrial and ultraterrestrial

1303
00:52:13,190 --> 00:52:11,200
um agencies intelligences and

1304
00:52:15,109 --> 00:52:13,200
some of them have a vested interest in

1305
00:52:16,950 --> 00:52:15,119
the survival of this planet and right

1306
00:52:18,390 --> 00:52:16,960
now we're doing a really crappy job of

1307
00:52:20,069 --> 00:52:18,400
taking care of it i think

1308
00:52:21,750 --> 00:52:20,079
everybody gets that particularly you in

1309
00:52:22,630 --> 00:52:21,760
vegas i mean how hot is it today out

1310
00:52:24,630 --> 00:52:22,640
there

1311
00:52:25,990 --> 00:52:24,640
um yeah today actually we've had a

1312
00:52:29,109 --> 00:52:26,000
reprieve but yeah

1313
00:52:31,030 --> 00:52:29,119
um i was gonna say

1314
00:52:32,390 --> 00:52:31,040
we uh i think you've you've said before

1315
00:52:34,710 --> 00:52:32,400
that

1316
00:52:36,150 --> 00:52:34,720
they really do care about the planet as

1317
00:52:39,510 --> 00:52:36,160
far as as far as us

1318
00:52:42,870 --> 00:52:39,520
maybe not so much yeah you know

1319
00:52:44,870 --> 00:52:42,880
the five paradigms that we're addressing

1320
00:52:48,150 --> 00:52:44,880
uh the first one greed is good

1321
00:52:49,109 --> 00:52:48,160
hunger is acceptable war is normal peace

1322
00:52:51,190 --> 00:52:49,119
is impossible

1323
00:52:52,710 --> 00:52:51,200
and one life matters less than another

1324
00:52:54,390 --> 00:52:52,720
and

1325
00:52:55,910 --> 00:52:54,400
the intelligences that we're familiar

1326
00:53:00,390 --> 00:52:55,920
with don't

1327
00:53:02,230 --> 00:53:00,400
see things quite that way um

1328
00:53:03,430 --> 00:53:02,240
the gain of material wealth isn't the

1329
00:53:06,390 --> 00:53:03,440
driving force in their

1330
00:53:08,150 --> 00:53:06,400
in their culture now i can i can speak

1331
00:53:10,230 --> 00:53:08,160
with some authority on this because of

1332
00:53:12,870 --> 00:53:10,240
my personal experiences

1333
00:53:15,270 --> 00:53:12,880
but we've got other people who have

1334
00:53:18,069 --> 00:53:15,280
joined our effort if you will

1335
00:53:18,309 --> 00:53:18,079
um who have other personal experiences

1336
00:53:20,790 --> 00:53:18,319
that

1337
00:53:21,750 --> 00:53:20,800
kind of make mine look like a day at

1338
00:53:24,950 --> 00:53:21,760
coney island

1339
00:53:27,349 --> 00:53:24,960
so um it it's

1340
00:53:28,150 --> 00:53:27,359
i hate to say be patient but there's an

1341
00:53:31,589 --> 00:53:28,160
element of

1342
00:53:32,069 --> 00:53:31,599
time that needs to i mean these actions

1343
00:53:34,710 --> 00:53:32,079
have to

1344
00:53:37,030 --> 00:53:34,720
take place in some sort of book in time

1345
00:53:38,790 --> 00:53:37,040
they have to take place

1346
00:53:40,870 --> 00:53:38,800
this is a great opening gambit right

1347
00:53:42,870 --> 00:53:40,880
here if you look at it as a chess game

1348
00:53:44,630 --> 00:53:42,880
think of this as the beginning of it

1349
00:53:45,190 --> 00:53:44,640
there's a middle and there will be an

1350
00:53:47,829 --> 00:53:45,200
end

1351
00:53:49,270 --> 00:53:47,839
most chess games last about 30 30 moves

1352
00:53:51,670 --> 00:53:49,280
32 moves

1353
00:53:53,910 --> 00:53:51,680
and this is the opening this is the

1354
00:53:56,549 --> 00:53:53,920
opening gambit that's

1355
00:53:57,349 --> 00:53:56,559
my gut feeling on it it's a great way to

1356
00:54:01,109 --> 00:53:57,359
look at it

1357
00:54:02,790 --> 00:54:01,119
thank you for calling in and

1358
00:54:04,150 --> 00:54:02,800
for folks who don't know michael was

1359
00:54:05,829 --> 00:54:04,160
look up on twitter

1360
00:54:07,349 --> 00:54:05,839
um i know a lot of people are like where

1361
00:54:08,870 --> 00:54:07,359
is he we miss him

1362
00:54:12,069 --> 00:54:08,880
so it's really did not expect to see you

1363
00:54:14,950 --> 00:54:13,589
we're just finished packing like i said

1364
00:54:16,870 --> 00:54:14,960
we're heading out for long island at

1365
00:54:18,230 --> 00:54:16,880
daybreak and uh we've got some business

1366
00:54:21,349 --> 00:54:18,240
to take care of on the way

1367
00:54:23,349 --> 00:54:21,359
and while we're down there and um a side

1368
00:54:24,470 --> 00:54:23,359
trip to camp hiro and montauk

1369
00:54:27,430 --> 00:54:24,480
we're going to meet with some people

1370
00:54:29,109 --> 00:54:27,440
that have experiences there and

1371
00:54:30,630 --> 00:54:29,119
they're going to have a good time and

1372
00:54:32,870 --> 00:54:30,640
when we get back here

1373
00:54:34,309 --> 00:54:32,880
you know i'm going to let someone else

1374
00:54:35,510 --> 00:54:34,319
but when we get back you and i are going

1375
00:54:38,710 --> 00:54:35,520
to reconnect uh we

1376
00:54:40,549 --> 00:54:38,720
definitely so glad you contacted me

1377
00:54:41,910 --> 00:54:40,559
they're rearranging themselves in

1378
00:54:45,589 --> 00:54:41,920
interesting ways for us

1379
00:54:45,910 --> 00:54:45,599
and we'd like to share some of that with

1380
00:54:49,270 --> 00:54:45,920
you

1381
00:54:50,950 --> 00:54:49,280
yeah i would really welcome it

1382
00:54:52,069 --> 00:54:50,960
and by the way the priest is now in new

1383
00:54:53,270 --> 00:54:52,079
hampshire he's not shooting new

1384
00:54:53,829 --> 00:54:53,280
hampshire i just wanted to share that

1385
00:54:55,589 --> 00:54:53,839
with you

1386
00:54:56,950 --> 00:54:55,599
and people by the way his story involves

1387
00:54:58,789 --> 00:54:56,960
a priest and a healing it's

1388
00:55:00,230 --> 00:54:58,799
it's an amazing story and i had time to

1389
00:55:01,510 --> 00:55:00,240
speak with the priest and it's a real

1390
00:55:02,309 --> 00:55:01,520
story and people are going to be blown

1391
00:55:03,430 --> 00:55:02,319
away

1392
00:55:04,789 --> 00:55:03,440
when they finally get to hear what

1393
00:55:05,430 --> 00:55:04,799
happened and i'm going to leave you with

1394
00:55:08,069 --> 00:55:05,440
this

1395
00:55:09,030 --> 00:55:08,079
we have it's b we've been here seven

1396
00:55:11,190 --> 00:55:09,040
years now

1397
00:55:12,870 --> 00:55:11,200
we retreated back here uh right after

1398
00:55:15,670 --> 00:55:12,880
cindy's mom died

1399
00:55:16,069 --> 00:55:15,680
and um there's something magical about

1400
00:55:18,390 --> 00:55:16,079
the

1401
00:55:20,950 --> 00:55:18,400
seven year point cindy and i we live our

1402
00:55:23,349 --> 00:55:20,960
lives by five-year plans

1403
00:55:25,270 --> 00:55:23,359
but i have to say this that we still

1404
00:55:27,829 --> 00:55:25,280
argue and i just spoke to the free

1405
00:55:29,750 --> 00:55:27,839
priest recently we still argue about

1406
00:55:31,829 --> 00:55:29,760
what the nature of that experience was

1407
00:55:34,870 --> 00:55:31,839
was it extraterrestrial

1408
00:55:36,150 --> 00:55:34,880
um in nature origin or the

1409
00:55:38,549 --> 00:55:36,160
ultra-terrestrial

1410
00:55:39,430 --> 00:55:38,559
in origin it was something we just don't

1411
00:55:40,789 --> 00:55:39,440
know what

1412
00:55:43,109 --> 00:55:40,799
and we don't that's what i love about

1413
00:55:45,349 --> 00:55:43,119
you you did not put it in a definitive

1414
00:55:47,510 --> 00:55:45,359
category of i know what happened to me

1415
00:55:49,190 --> 00:55:47,520
i can't do it you know and and this is

1416
00:55:51,750 --> 00:55:49,200
going to be part of the discussion that

1417
00:55:53,589 --> 00:55:51,760
that is about to open that there will be

1418
00:55:55,990 --> 00:55:53,599
people who assert that that

1419
00:55:57,670 --> 00:55:56,000
we're dealing with demonic forces or

1420
00:56:00,829 --> 00:55:57,680
angelic forces

1421
00:56:01,990 --> 00:56:00,839
uh extraterrestrial interdimensional

1422
00:56:03,270 --> 00:56:02,000
ultra-terrestrial uh

1423
00:56:05,510 --> 00:56:03,280
it's gonna be an interesting

1424
00:56:06,309 --> 00:56:05,520
conversation to be sure and like i said

1425
00:56:08,710 --> 00:56:06,319
i think cindy

1426
00:56:11,270 --> 00:56:08,720
and in my experience can add to the

1427
00:56:14,309 --> 00:56:11,280
conversation in a positive way

1428
00:56:15,670 --> 00:56:14,319
and um this is where we need to stick

1429
00:56:17,589 --> 00:56:15,680
our neck out we're not

1430
00:56:19,829 --> 00:56:17,599
really comfortable doing it because we

1431
00:56:23,030 --> 00:56:19,839
live really comfortably now

1432
00:56:26,870 --> 00:56:23,040
and we have a lot to lose

1433
00:56:29,510 --> 00:56:26,880
and you know you know some of the

1434
00:56:30,390 --> 00:56:29,520
the crap that we uh we had to deal with

1435
00:56:35,109 --> 00:56:30,400
so

1436
00:56:37,030 --> 00:56:35,119
come and grab the microphone away from

1437
00:56:39,349 --> 00:56:37,040
me yeah

1438
00:56:40,630 --> 00:56:39,359
i just wanna i just wanted to address as

1439
00:56:43,270 --> 00:56:40,640
a as a casual

1440
00:56:44,950 --> 00:56:43,280
observer i'm from south korea i'm

1441
00:56:47,270 --> 00:56:44,960
studying engineering at

1442
00:56:47,990 --> 00:56:47,280
uh university in california right now

1443
00:56:51,190 --> 00:56:48,000
and

1444
00:56:53,510 --> 00:56:51,200
i'm actually a very recent um

1445
00:56:55,750 --> 00:56:53,520
entrance to ufo topic through george

1446
00:56:59,510 --> 00:56:55,760
knapp and jeremy corbell recently

1447
00:57:03,030 --> 00:56:59,520
i'm actually surprised by kind of the

1448
00:57:05,670 --> 00:57:03,040
negative opinions in the ufo communities

1449
00:57:08,789 --> 00:57:05,680
about this new ufo report because

1450
00:57:11,510 --> 00:57:08,799
to me it seems absolutely

1451
00:57:12,069 --> 00:57:11,520
insane that united states government

1452
00:57:15,589 --> 00:57:12,079
like

1453
00:57:19,030 --> 00:57:15,599
the dia the defense intelligence agency

1454
00:57:19,510 --> 00:57:19,040
is basically saying yeah we have these

1455
00:57:21,510 --> 00:57:19,520
things

1456
00:57:22,950 --> 00:57:21,520
like they're flying around we detected

1457
00:57:23,589 --> 00:57:22,960
them we don't know what the [\h__\h] they're

1458
00:57:26,390 --> 00:57:23,599
doing

1459
00:57:27,190 --> 00:57:26,400
and they're just out there and and and

1460
00:57:31,990 --> 00:57:27,200
just

1461
00:57:32,950 --> 00:57:32,000
telling the public about it and that's

1462
00:57:35,670 --> 00:57:32,960
just

1463
00:57:37,910 --> 00:57:35,680
surprising to me especially to a person

1464
00:57:39,109 --> 00:57:37,920
who studies engineering especially to

1465
00:57:41,430 --> 00:57:39,119
hear those like

1466
00:57:42,230 --> 00:57:41,440
instantaneous acceleration that's just

1467
00:57:44,309 --> 00:57:42,240
some

1468
00:57:46,230 --> 00:57:44,319
kind of crazy and it would help us a lot

1469
00:57:47,910 --> 00:57:46,240
in scientific community

1470
00:57:49,510 --> 00:57:47,920
you know it's for me it's like and i

1471
00:57:51,910 --> 00:57:49,520
need people like you and michael

1472
00:57:54,150 --> 00:57:51,920
and i i was i wasn't disappointed but i

1473
00:57:55,510 --> 00:57:54,160
didn't see anything

1474
00:57:57,270 --> 00:57:55,520
that stood out in that report that made

1475
00:57:57,829 --> 00:57:57,280
me say oh my god but yeah this is

1476
00:57:59,670 --> 00:57:57,839
amazing

1477
00:58:01,349 --> 00:57:59,680
i'm spoiled i'm spoiled over the last

1478
00:58:02,870 --> 00:58:01,359
three and a half years you know and i

1479
00:58:04,630 --> 00:58:02,880
got back into this i was in this in the

1480
00:58:05,190 --> 00:58:04,640
early 90s michael was into this before

1481
00:58:07,349 --> 00:58:05,200
that

1482
00:58:08,470 --> 00:58:07,359
so yeah looking at it did i ever think

1483
00:58:10,390 --> 00:58:08,480
we would get to this point

1484
00:58:11,829 --> 00:58:10,400
early on i did but as the years went on

1485
00:58:13,030 --> 00:58:11,839
i was like we're never gonna get make

1486
00:58:15,030 --> 00:58:13,040
progress and then

1487
00:58:16,069 --> 00:58:15,040
2017 happened with the new york times

1488
00:58:18,069 --> 00:58:16,079
and now

1489
00:58:19,510 --> 00:58:18,079
we're here you know there and i do know

1490
00:58:21,750 --> 00:58:19,520
like i said i know

1491
00:58:23,510 --> 00:58:21,760
zero doubt that rubio and the senate

1492
00:58:25,750 --> 00:58:23,520
intelligence committee were told

1493
00:58:27,589 --> 00:58:25,760
that o and i and uap task force believe

1494
00:58:29,270 --> 00:58:27,599
some of these are off-world vehicles

1495
00:58:30,870 --> 00:58:29,280
whatever reason why they're not telling

1496
00:58:32,950 --> 00:58:30,880
us that yet eventually

1497
00:58:34,069 --> 00:58:32,960
i think that information will come out

1498
00:58:35,589 --> 00:58:34,079
um

1499
00:58:37,190 --> 00:58:35,599
but yeah as michael said and as lou said

1500
00:58:39,190 --> 00:58:37,200
it's the beginning of the beginning

1501
00:58:43,030 --> 00:58:39,200
so yeah i like having a positive

1502
00:58:44,390 --> 00:58:43,040
attitude get me get me more excited

1503
00:58:46,150 --> 00:58:44,400
by the end of the day i'll be happy

1504
00:58:49,270 --> 00:58:46,160
again well

1505
00:58:52,230 --> 00:58:49,280
hey i just want to throw this out there

1506
00:58:53,270 --> 00:58:52,240
there there's a huge there's enormous

1507
00:58:56,390 --> 00:58:53,280
social

1508
00:59:00,230 --> 00:58:56,400
cultural and religious ramifications

1509
00:59:02,069 --> 00:59:00,240
related to again the word disclosure

1510
00:59:03,990 --> 00:59:02,079
it will it's not it's it's like the

1511
00:59:06,470 --> 00:59:04,000
pandemic it's going to affect the whole

1512
00:59:09,190 --> 00:59:06,480
world okay once this genie is out of the

1513
00:59:11,349 --> 00:59:09,200
bottle there's no putting it back in

1514
00:59:12,309 --> 00:59:11,359
and it's really going to be a testament

1515
00:59:15,190 --> 00:59:12,319
to what

1516
00:59:17,270 --> 00:59:15,200
we as a species want for our future for

1517
00:59:20,150 --> 00:59:17,280
our grandkids

1518
00:59:21,349 --> 00:59:20,160
because quite honestly i you know what

1519
00:59:23,270 --> 00:59:21,359
um

1520
00:59:24,950 --> 00:59:23,280
cindy has a degree in animal science and

1521
00:59:27,670 --> 00:59:24,960
part of my career i work for the federal

1522
00:59:30,870 --> 00:59:27,680
emergency management agency and i've had

1523
00:59:34,230 --> 00:59:30,880
uh some we both had some

1524
00:59:36,549 --> 00:59:34,240
unpleasant experiences with regard to

1525
00:59:40,789 --> 00:59:36,559
what our potential features are

1526
00:59:43,430 --> 00:59:40,799
and if if they paint extraterrestrials

1527
00:59:44,069 --> 00:59:43,440
or ultra terrestrials as enemies from

1528
00:59:47,270 --> 00:59:44,079
the

1529
00:59:48,549 --> 00:59:47,280
have a lot of problems

1530
00:59:49,910 --> 00:59:48,559
you know you gotta shoot them mailing

1531
00:59:50,710 --> 00:59:49,920
let's shoot a few down see if they're

1532
00:59:53,990 --> 00:59:50,720
friendly

1533
00:59:56,150 --> 00:59:54,000
kind of thing and um

1534
00:59:57,190 --> 00:59:56,160
if you sit back for five minutes and you

1535
01:00:00,470 --> 00:59:57,200
think about

1536
01:00:03,910 --> 01:00:00,480
how the world could change in a good way

1537
01:00:06,950 --> 01:00:03,920
we're divided by color by race by age

1538
01:00:09,030 --> 01:00:06,960
by gender by like culture we're a

1539
01:00:12,150 --> 01:00:09,040
divided species

1540
01:00:13,270 --> 01:00:12,160
and you know what can what can divide us

1541
01:00:15,109 --> 01:00:13,280
can also unite us

1542
01:00:17,510 --> 01:00:15,119
you know what can unite us like air

1543
01:00:20,549 --> 01:00:17,520
clean air clean water clean food

1544
01:00:22,390 --> 01:00:20,559
can also divide us so

1545
01:00:24,710 --> 01:00:22,400
there's a lot of considerations to think

1546
01:00:26,630 --> 01:00:24,720
about when you read that report

1547
01:00:28,549 --> 01:00:26,640
especially when you think of it as being

1548
01:00:30,230 --> 01:00:28,559
the opening

1549
01:00:32,069 --> 01:00:30,240
you know here we go let's start the

1550
01:00:33,270 --> 01:00:32,079
dialogue more and more people are ready

1551
01:00:36,710 --> 01:00:33,280
to jump in

1552
01:00:38,069 --> 01:00:36,720
once certain points are reached

1553
01:00:39,829 --> 01:00:38,079
and i don't know where all of them are i

1554
01:00:42,870 --> 01:00:39,839
only know where mine are and we're

1555
01:00:44,789 --> 01:00:42,880
we'll be approaching that one um

1556
01:00:46,309 --> 01:00:44,799
when we get back from long island yeah

1557
01:00:47,990 --> 01:00:46,319
we'll enjoy the trip

1558
01:00:50,630 --> 01:00:48,000
yeah great to see you it's such a nice

1559
01:00:52,150 --> 01:00:50,640
surprise and so we're excited to go

1560
01:00:53,750 --> 01:00:52,160
and have it have a great time and say

1561
01:00:57,589 --> 01:00:53,760
hello to cindy for me

1562
01:00:59,270 --> 01:00:57,599
jimmy's in the background hi cindy

1563
01:01:01,190 --> 01:00:59,280
he's in the background like i said yeah

1564
01:01:02,390 --> 01:01:01,200
people you got people standing shoulder

1565
01:01:06,309 --> 01:01:02,400
to shoulder

1566
01:01:08,870 --> 01:01:06,319
waiting for enough momentum enough

1567
01:01:10,150 --> 01:01:08,880
um where they can't get us all kind of

1568
01:01:12,549 --> 01:01:10,160
thing you know

1569
01:01:13,190 --> 01:01:12,559
they can't pick us all off at one time

1570
01:01:15,589 --> 01:01:13,200
and there's

1571
01:01:17,030 --> 01:01:15,599
they're people that know they care about

1572
01:01:18,470 --> 01:01:17,040
their futures they care about their

1573
01:01:19,270 --> 01:01:18,480
grandchildren's futures and they're

1574
01:01:22,309 --> 01:01:19,280
willing to risk

1575
01:01:24,789 --> 01:01:22,319
a lot if not everything to

1576
01:01:25,589 --> 01:01:24,799
make this a reality to bring it to

1577
01:01:28,789 --> 01:01:25,599
fruition

1578
01:01:31,589 --> 01:01:28,799
so it's going to be an interesting time

1579
01:01:33,670 --> 01:01:31,599
i know that and um i'm just going to say

1580
01:01:37,030 --> 01:01:33,680
one last thing that but

1581
01:01:40,470 --> 01:01:37,040
um you know

1582
01:01:43,270 --> 01:01:40,480
when we go back to montauk we um

1583
01:01:44,630 --> 01:01:43,280
we say a prayer we pray for peace that's

1584
01:01:47,109 --> 01:01:44,640
really the only the only thing

1585
01:01:47,910 --> 01:01:47,119
that is going to help us change the

1586
01:01:49,430 --> 01:01:47,920
world

1587
01:01:51,510 --> 01:01:49,440
the way it is right now peace that's the

1588
01:01:52,630 --> 01:01:51,520
only thing and and

1589
01:01:53,910 --> 01:01:52,640
a lot of people don't want to give up

1590
01:01:54,950 --> 01:01:53,920
their guns a lot of people don't want to

1591
01:01:58,230 --> 01:01:54,960
give up

1592
01:01:59,510 --> 01:01:58,240
the money they make from selling war and

1593
01:02:02,950 --> 01:01:59,520
um

1594
01:02:07,829 --> 01:02:05,430
it's time to change it's time for us to

1595
01:02:09,589 --> 01:02:07,839
unless we as a species evolve

1596
01:02:11,190 --> 01:02:09,599
we're in serious trouble in the future

1597
01:02:12,230 --> 01:02:11,200
and i'm not being a doomsayer i've never

1598
01:02:14,230 --> 01:02:12,240
been no

1599
01:02:16,390 --> 01:02:14,240
i don't know the world kind of guy i'm

1600
01:02:18,309 --> 01:02:16,400
i'm where does the new one begin

1601
01:02:20,069 --> 01:02:18,319
you know to say that some of the things

1602
01:02:22,870 --> 01:02:20,079
in the old world need to pass away

1603
01:02:23,750 --> 01:02:22,880
before those doors open and that's all

1604
01:02:25,349 --> 01:02:23,760
up there

1605
01:02:27,109 --> 01:02:25,359
and you're part of that conversation joe

1606
01:02:29,750 --> 01:02:27,119
you're an important part of it

1607
01:02:31,349 --> 01:02:29,760
and maybe that's our problem city and my

1608
01:02:33,029 --> 01:02:31,359
problem is we don't

1609
01:02:34,470 --> 01:02:33,039
you know we're selfish because we want

1610
01:02:37,670 --> 01:02:34,480
to keep what we have

1611
01:02:39,750 --> 01:02:37,680
yeah i get it you follow me so

1612
01:02:40,870 --> 01:02:39,760
i'll let you go yeah thank you again for

1613
01:02:42,710 --> 01:02:40,880
listening

1614
01:02:43,910 --> 01:02:42,720
and uh like i said this is just the

1615
01:02:45,349 --> 01:02:43,920
beginning

1616
01:02:46,710 --> 01:02:45,359
thanks again great to see you michael

1617
01:02:48,230 --> 01:02:46,720
and yeah definitely connect when you get

1618
01:02:51,910 --> 01:02:48,240
back enjoy long island

1619
01:02:55,109 --> 01:02:51,920
i will all right see ya

1620
01:02:57,510 --> 01:02:55,119
hey joe can i say something yes please

1621
01:02:58,710 --> 01:02:57,520
hi my name is paul um hey paul thanks

1622
01:03:01,190 --> 01:02:58,720
for calling

1623
01:03:01,990 --> 01:03:01,200
yeah like listen um unfortunately that

1624
01:03:03,910 --> 01:03:02,000
mike's jumping off

1625
01:03:06,150 --> 01:03:03,920
so when you talk to me and thank him for

1626
01:03:07,829 --> 01:03:06,160
his service like he's great um you know

1627
01:03:09,670 --> 01:03:07,839
vet and everything like that so i didn't

1628
01:03:13,109 --> 01:03:09,680
get a chance to tell him but

1629
01:03:15,029 --> 01:03:13,119
into his point i am one of those people

1630
01:03:17,510 --> 01:03:15,039
that he was talking about like that you

1631
01:03:19,109 --> 01:03:17,520
know the tides turning so to speak

1632
01:03:20,950 --> 01:03:19,119
um i'm not you know joe you've been

1633
01:03:22,230 --> 01:03:20,960
around on this for a while right

1634
01:03:24,230 --> 01:03:22,240
and i actually knew about you a long

1635
01:03:26,309 --> 01:03:24,240
time ago um and

1636
01:03:27,670 --> 01:03:26,319
but it wasn't until like to the stars

1637
01:03:28,710 --> 01:03:27,680
and all that stuff started happening to

1638
01:03:32,150 --> 01:03:28,720
where i'm like

1639
01:03:34,710 --> 01:03:32,160
wow like this is truly like a potential

1640
01:03:35,829 --> 01:03:34,720
you know reality um so i've been a

1641
01:03:38,710 --> 01:03:35,839
cautious skeptic

1642
01:03:39,349 --> 01:03:38,720
um up until recently i'm uh you know i

1643
01:03:41,109 --> 01:03:39,359
work in

1644
01:03:42,789 --> 01:03:41,119
drug development in a field called

1645
01:03:44,710 --> 01:03:42,799
competitive intelligence

1646
01:03:46,309 --> 01:03:44,720
and so i i have something to kind of say

1647
01:03:47,750 --> 01:03:46,319
that may be interesting to get you

1648
01:03:49,029 --> 01:03:47,760
excited um

1649
01:03:50,870 --> 01:03:49,039
you know i had just finished kind of

1650
01:03:53,190 --> 01:03:50,880
going through the the report all

1651
01:03:54,150 --> 01:03:53,200
nine horrible pages of it only nine

1652
01:03:56,470 --> 01:03:54,160
pages right

1653
01:03:57,510 --> 01:03:56,480
i'm pretty disappointed better than four

1654
01:04:00,150 --> 01:03:57,520
but nine pages

1655
01:04:00,950 --> 01:04:00,160
yeah but you know this is what we see in

1656
01:04:03,190 --> 01:04:00,960
what i do

1657
01:04:04,789 --> 01:04:03,200
um you know companies will put out a

1658
01:04:06,150 --> 01:04:04,799
press release about a clinical trial

1659
01:04:08,950 --> 01:04:06,160
failing or

1660
01:04:09,990 --> 01:04:08,960
and there's a way of saying things

1661
01:04:12,069 --> 01:04:10,000
without saying it

1662
01:04:15,029 --> 01:04:12,079
overtly and i feel like that's what this

1663
01:04:18,549 --> 01:04:15,039
report definitely does like they said

1664
01:04:20,309 --> 01:04:18,559
there is like you know real sensory data

1665
01:04:22,470 --> 01:04:20,319
and that these things are real objects

1666
01:04:23,829 --> 01:04:22,480
that is a huge win so joe for you it's

1667
01:04:25,589 --> 01:04:23,839
probably like very disappointing you've

1668
01:04:28,549 --> 01:04:25,599
been on this for like 30 years

1669
01:04:29,270 --> 01:04:28,559
for me to like three years only or so

1670
01:04:33,990 --> 01:04:29,280
and

1671
01:04:35,589 --> 01:04:34,000
absolutely confirmed that you know

1672
01:04:38,470 --> 01:04:35,599
something's real right

1673
01:04:40,390 --> 01:04:38,480
it's not a admission that it's um you

1674
01:04:43,190 --> 01:04:40,400
know off world per se like you said

1675
01:04:44,390 --> 01:04:43,200
and i which i now think it is but i'll

1676
01:04:47,670 --> 01:04:44,400
say this for my

1677
01:04:51,190 --> 01:04:47,680
christian family okay self included

1678
01:04:54,390 --> 01:04:51,200
my brother me my sister my

1679
01:04:55,910 --> 01:04:54,400
my parents not yet with the three of us

1680
01:04:57,349 --> 01:04:55,920
definitely think like we definitely

1681
01:04:59,029 --> 01:04:57,359
think there's like a high high high

1682
01:05:02,230 --> 01:04:59,039
degree of probability

1683
01:05:04,309 --> 01:05:02,240
that this is off world etc so

1684
01:05:06,549 --> 01:05:04,319
what that means we still don't know but

1685
01:05:09,270 --> 01:05:06,559
to us like it's been a huge sea change i

1686
01:05:09,829 --> 01:05:09,280
and i think joe your time in the area

1687
01:05:12,870 --> 01:05:09,839
you get

1688
01:05:15,349 --> 01:05:12,880
know and

1689
01:05:16,789 --> 01:05:15,359
in patients and things like that yeah um

1690
01:05:18,069 --> 01:05:16,799
yes i'm disappointed by the report

1691
01:05:21,029 --> 01:05:18,079
simultaneously

1692
01:05:22,950 --> 01:05:21,039
through omission it's confirmation so

1693
01:05:25,109 --> 01:05:22,960
that's all i'll stop talking thanks

1694
01:05:27,190 --> 01:05:25,119
no it's great i mean the more people the

1695
01:05:28,309 --> 01:05:27,200
better and um i agree i mean yeah i've

1696
01:05:29,670 --> 01:05:28,319
been at it it's like

1697
01:05:31,750 --> 01:05:29,680
here's an analogy when i lived at the

1698
01:05:33,109 --> 01:05:31,760
beach the first time we would go to the

1699
01:05:34,630 --> 01:05:33,119
beach you know you come over the hill

1700
01:05:35,910 --> 01:05:34,640
it's like oh my god look it's so

1701
01:05:37,349 --> 01:05:35,920
beautiful and then you're there for

1702
01:05:39,829 --> 01:05:37,359
three years and it's like

1703
01:05:41,510 --> 01:05:39,839
it loses it loses some of its luster you

1704
01:05:43,589 --> 01:05:41,520
get spoiled and that's kind of that's

1705
01:05:45,990 --> 01:05:43,599
kind of how i am now i remember

1706
01:05:47,270 --> 01:05:46,000
i remember when we had um i don't

1707
01:05:48,710 --> 01:05:47,280
remember somebody came out with a

1708
01:05:50,150 --> 01:05:48,720
comment and i had something negative to

1709
01:05:51,430 --> 01:05:50,160
say and i was like and then i re

1710
01:05:53,990 --> 01:05:51,440
i thought about it i'm like i'm so

1711
01:05:55,750 --> 01:05:54,000
spoiled i mean to have to have three and

1712
01:05:56,549 --> 01:05:55,760
a half years ago to have any of this and

1713
01:05:59,990 --> 01:05:56,559
now we have

1714
01:06:01,109 --> 01:06:00,000
presidents and all the folks who have

1715
01:06:02,710 --> 01:06:01,119
spoken out you have

1716
01:06:04,230 --> 01:06:02,720
rubio who has gone out of his way to

1717
01:06:04,710 --> 01:06:04,240
talk about that when asked he hasn't

1718
01:06:07,589 --> 01:06:04,720
shied

1719
01:06:08,309 --> 01:06:07,599
and i'm i am frustrated that rubio was

1720
01:06:09,670 --> 01:06:08,319
told that

1721
01:06:11,349 --> 01:06:09,680
that they think these are off world but

1722
01:06:14,390 --> 01:06:11,359
like he's like michael said

1723
01:06:16,150 --> 01:06:14,400
once they go there if rubio just if he

1724
01:06:17,589 --> 01:06:16,160
were to say

1725
01:06:20,309 --> 01:06:17,599
we think some of these are off the world

1726
01:06:22,870 --> 01:06:20,319
i mean everything changes right away

1727
01:06:23,670 --> 01:06:22,880
so it's such a big deal so yeah we've

1728
01:06:25,190 --> 01:06:23,680
this is

1729
01:06:26,789 --> 01:06:25,200
it's progress you know and by the end of

1730
01:06:28,069 --> 01:06:26,799
the day i'll read the report again

1731
01:06:29,270 --> 01:06:28,079
and i'll be like you know what yeah

1732
01:06:30,870 --> 01:06:29,280
there's some there's some really

1733
01:06:33,430 --> 01:06:30,880
important stuff in that report

1734
01:06:34,870 --> 01:06:33,440
so yeah anybody else feel free to jump

1735
01:06:36,230 --> 01:06:34,880
in you guys are all unmuted i haven't

1736
01:06:37,589 --> 01:06:36,240
muted anybody

1737
01:06:39,990 --> 01:06:37,599
thank you for thank you for your call

1738
01:06:43,190 --> 01:06:40,000
paul yeah thanks

1739
01:06:46,069 --> 01:06:43,200
hey just chime in in here my my uh

1740
01:06:46,870 --> 01:06:46,079
austin here in buffalo uh my biggest

1741
01:06:49,430 --> 01:06:46,880
problem is

1742
01:06:51,510 --> 01:06:49,440
people like i have brother-in-law who's

1743
01:06:54,309 --> 01:06:51,520
an engineer smart guy great guy

1744
01:06:56,470 --> 01:06:54,319
and people like neil degrasse tyson that

1745
01:07:00,309 --> 01:06:56,480
are completely dismissive

1746
01:07:03,430 --> 01:07:00,319
of uh this being off-world

1747
01:07:05,190 --> 01:07:03,440
kind of situation uh because all they do

1748
01:07:06,630 --> 01:07:05,200
is think about the physics and the

1749
01:07:09,349 --> 01:07:06,640
logistics involved

1750
01:07:11,109 --> 01:07:09,359
with our present day knowledge of

1751
01:07:13,990 --> 01:07:11,119
science and physics

1752
01:07:14,870 --> 01:07:14,000
not factoring in that possibly a uh

1753
01:07:17,910 --> 01:07:14,880
advanced

1754
01:07:21,910 --> 01:07:17,920
species or race or uh

1755
01:07:24,230 --> 01:07:21,920
society perhaps thousands a year ah

1756
01:07:25,190 --> 01:07:24,240
years ahead of us have figured out some

1757
01:07:28,309 --> 01:07:25,200
different

1758
01:07:31,510 --> 01:07:28,319
methods of travel or are sending

1759
01:07:33,829 --> 01:07:31,520
robotic drones here uh and or

1760
01:07:35,349 --> 01:07:33,839
different types of technology to to

1761
01:07:36,390 --> 01:07:35,359
monitor what's going on in other

1762
01:07:40,309 --> 01:07:36,400
galaxies

1763
01:07:41,829 --> 01:07:40,319
so uh that's uh one of the things

1764
01:07:44,390 --> 01:07:41,839
not getting enough information out of

1765
01:07:47,270 --> 01:07:44,400
this new disclosure

1766
01:07:48,470 --> 01:07:47,280
it almost adds fuel till to their uh

1767
01:07:51,029 --> 01:07:48,480
argument

1768
01:07:53,510 --> 01:07:51,039
i actually completely agree with your

1769
01:07:55,829 --> 01:07:53,520
argument that a lot of scientists are

1770
01:07:57,430 --> 01:07:55,839
ignoring on this topic because i

1771
01:07:59,990 --> 01:07:57,440
understand because i'm an engineer

1772
01:08:00,710 --> 01:08:00,000
i i live in among scientists you know

1773
01:08:03,029 --> 01:08:00,720
they're all

1774
01:08:05,190 --> 01:08:03,039
college students the faculty members

1775
01:08:07,270 --> 01:08:05,200
they don't really

1776
01:08:09,029 --> 01:08:07,280
they don't want to say it's out of world

1777
01:08:11,029 --> 01:08:09,039
because there is no

1778
01:08:13,430 --> 01:08:11,039
concrete physical evidence scientists

1779
01:08:15,349 --> 01:08:13,440
are very hard to convince like they

1780
01:08:16,309 --> 01:08:15,359
can't they're not even fully convinced

1781
01:08:18,789 --> 01:08:16,319
that

1782
01:08:19,669 --> 01:08:18,799
like the evolution is actually a thing i

1783
01:08:22,550 --> 01:08:19,679
mean they are

1784
01:08:23,110 --> 01:08:22,560
pretty convinced but they're not 1 000

1785
01:08:24,870 --> 01:08:23,120
sure

1786
01:08:26,870 --> 01:08:24,880
you know what i mean this is it science

1787
01:08:29,829 --> 01:08:26,880
is always like um

1788
01:08:30,870 --> 01:08:29,839
not it needs more data that's why i hate

1789
01:08:33,829 --> 01:08:30,880
about this

1790
01:08:36,070 --> 01:08:33,839
government approach because i want to

1791
01:08:39,349 --> 01:08:36,080
study it i want to look at the data

1792
01:08:41,749 --> 01:08:39,359
i want to see what it actually did but

1793
01:08:44,789 --> 01:08:41,759
everything's not available everything's

1794
01:08:47,349 --> 01:08:44,799
just gone everything's only available to

1795
01:08:50,390 --> 01:08:47,359
select people and if they speak about it

1796
01:08:52,470 --> 01:08:50,400
it's nda you go to jail you got trouble

1797
01:08:54,070 --> 01:08:52,480
and you're not able to access it anymore

1798
01:08:56,870 --> 01:08:54,080
and that's just some

1799
01:08:58,229 --> 01:08:56,880
cruel to humanity in my opinion because

1800
01:09:01,510 --> 01:08:58,239
i mean as a scientist

1801
01:09:04,470 --> 01:09:01,520
if you have a thing that could go

1802
01:09:06,070 --> 01:09:04,480
inside of water go to outer space we

1803
01:09:08,390 --> 01:09:06,080
could literally

1804
01:09:10,149 --> 01:09:08,400
change everything about logistics how to

1805
01:09:12,789 --> 01:09:10,159
feed people how to move around

1806
01:09:13,990 --> 01:09:12,799
food everything like we can learn from

1807
01:09:17,030 --> 01:09:14,000
them

1808
01:09:19,349 --> 01:09:17,040
100 and my idea and i know lewis spoken

1809
01:09:21,910 --> 01:09:19,359
about it before is get the top get the

1810
01:09:23,510 --> 01:09:21,920
top scientists like the grass tyson

1811
01:09:25,269 --> 01:09:23,520
and get them briefed you know get them

1812
01:09:27,749 --> 01:09:25,279
briefed on the really good stuff even if

1813
01:09:29,510 --> 01:09:27,759
yeah convince them yeah i mean because i

1814
01:09:32,070 --> 01:09:29,520
understand the skepticism because

1815
01:09:33,590 --> 01:09:32,080
i haven't i've heard lou talk about

1816
01:09:36,229 --> 01:09:33,600
everything and melon but

1817
01:09:38,070 --> 01:09:36,239
i i have not seen it with my own eyes i

1818
01:09:39,829 --> 01:09:38,080
have not seen any member of congress

1819
01:09:41,829 --> 01:09:39,839
i mean we have heard a couple of people

1820
01:09:42,789 --> 01:09:41,839
like i think it was heinrich out of new

1821
01:09:44,149 --> 01:09:42,799
mexico who said

1822
01:09:46,550 --> 01:09:44,159
you know he doesn't think that these are

1823
01:09:48,870 --> 01:09:46,560
ours um but i would like to hear what

1824
01:09:50,229 --> 01:09:48,880
they're seeing and out of the report

1825
01:09:52,390 --> 01:09:50,239
the incidents they looked at there was a

1826
01:09:55,189 --> 01:09:52,400
very small percentage that we're making

1827
01:09:55,510 --> 01:09:55,199
instantaneous acceleration just we just

1828
01:09:57,590 --> 01:09:55,520
need

1829
01:09:59,590 --> 01:09:57,600
one of those videos and one radar to go

1830
01:10:01,430 --> 01:09:59,600
along with it just to open up more minds

1831
01:10:02,630 --> 01:10:01,440
of some of the sciences but it's a first

1832
01:10:04,310 --> 01:10:02,640
step but we need

1833
01:10:06,149 --> 01:10:04,320
to get those people briefed even if it's

1834
01:10:09,350 --> 01:10:06,159
like three or four of them

1835
01:10:11,590 --> 01:10:09,360
so joe real quick my brother is a pilot

1836
01:10:13,430 --> 01:10:11,600
and i actually have an interesting photo

1837
01:10:15,350 --> 01:10:13,440
i'd like to share with you at some point

1838
01:10:16,870 --> 01:10:15,360
because uh he actually sent it to some

1839
01:10:19,910 --> 01:10:16,880
website too but

1840
01:10:20,709 --> 01:10:19,920
he's at 47 000 feet and he had some like

1841
01:10:22,709 --> 01:10:20,719
interesting

1842
01:10:24,470 --> 01:10:22,719
pictures of what seems to be potentially

1843
01:10:27,430 --> 01:10:24,480
orbs but anyways

1844
01:10:27,830 --> 01:10:27,440
um what i want to say real quick um is

1845
01:10:31,669 --> 01:10:27,840
with

1846
01:10:33,750 --> 01:10:31,679
uh rubio you know the fact

1847
01:10:35,189 --> 01:10:33,760
you know he brought up a heinrich too

1848
01:10:37,030 --> 01:10:35,199
which is interesting because that's my

1849
01:10:40,229 --> 01:10:37,040
state i'm in new mexico

1850
01:10:43,430 --> 01:10:40,239
um and it just to me

1851
01:10:45,189 --> 01:10:43,440
the fact that lou alexander kind of

1852
01:10:45,990 --> 01:10:45,199
characterized it on something last week

1853
01:10:48,709 --> 01:10:46,000
actually

1854
01:10:50,149 --> 01:10:48,719
that that somber comment joe you you saw

1855
01:10:51,350 --> 01:10:50,159
some of the discussion around that like

1856
01:10:53,750 --> 01:10:51,360
you know

1857
01:10:54,630 --> 01:10:53,760
act right i've been pondering that

1858
01:10:57,030 --> 01:10:54,640
question myself

1859
01:10:57,990 --> 01:10:57,040
all week honestly with my girlfriend and

1860
01:10:59,990 --> 01:10:58,000
it's interesting

1861
01:11:01,510 --> 01:11:00,000
the only conclusion we can come up with

1862
01:11:03,510 --> 01:11:01,520
is like the reason there's this

1863
01:11:05,350 --> 01:11:03,520
resistance to disclose

1864
01:11:07,669 --> 01:11:05,360
is it changes the whole idea of about

1865
01:11:09,910 --> 01:11:07,679
what uh our deities are maybe

1866
01:11:11,270 --> 01:11:09,920
that to me is the only thing of like our

1867
01:11:14,310 --> 01:11:11,280
origin right is

1868
01:11:14,950 --> 01:11:14,320
i of how we that to me seems like the

1869
01:11:17,590 --> 01:11:14,960
main thing

1870
01:11:17,990 --> 01:11:17,600
that would cause us to be somber and

1871
01:11:21,990 --> 01:11:18,000
that

1872
01:11:25,510 --> 01:11:22,000
christian whatever not just christian

1873
01:11:26,070 --> 01:11:25,520
muslim whatever in congress that there's

1874
01:12:24,550 --> 01:11:26,080
a

1875
01:12:26,550 --> 01:12:24,560
you know i don't i just this is the

1876
01:12:26,870 --> 01:12:26,560
world my my young daughter is going to

1877
01:12:29,189 --> 01:12:26,880
live

1878
01:12:31,110 --> 01:12:29,199
grow up in you know what what what is

1879
01:12:32,390 --> 01:12:31,120
the real story and lou said somber

1880
01:12:34,630 --> 01:12:32,400
and that could be interpreted so many

1881
01:12:36,310 --> 01:12:34,640
different ways i mean people even it's

1882
01:12:38,630 --> 01:12:36,320
there could be some people even if it's

1883
01:12:40,310 --> 01:12:38,640
just extraterrestrials here that's gonna

1884
01:12:42,390 --> 01:12:40,320
be a huge deal it's gonna

1885
01:12:43,750 --> 01:12:42,400
it's gonna you know devastate some of

1886
01:12:45,189 --> 01:12:43,760
their beliefs some people will be able

1887
01:12:48,470 --> 01:12:45,199
to handle it so yeah it's

1888
01:12:49,990 --> 01:12:48,480
i don't know what the story is so i if

1889
01:12:51,110 --> 01:12:50,000
it's something more than just an et if

1890
01:12:52,390 --> 01:12:51,120
it's something interdimensional and

1891
01:12:53,590 --> 01:12:52,400
they're here all the time as george

1892
01:12:55,350 --> 01:12:53,600
nappa said you know they could

1893
01:12:56,630 --> 01:12:55,360
they're watching us all the time and we

1894
01:12:58,310 --> 01:12:56,640
just can't see them

1895
01:12:59,750 --> 01:12:58,320
you know was that something they would

1896
01:13:00,310 --> 01:12:59,760
never let out because people would just

1897
01:13:02,550 --> 01:13:00,320
be

1898
01:13:03,830 --> 01:13:02,560
you know i don't know i don't know how

1899
01:13:04,950 --> 01:13:03,840
people would handle some of those

1900
01:13:05,990 --> 01:13:04,960
different story lines that we've

1901
01:13:08,870 --> 01:13:06,000
discussed

1902
01:13:09,669 --> 01:13:08,880
it's true and after covid i have less

1903
01:13:11,830 --> 01:13:09,679
faith in like

1904
01:13:12,709 --> 01:13:11,840
uh society to handle things right that's

1905
01:13:14,709 --> 01:13:12,719
a great point

1906
01:13:17,030 --> 01:13:14,719
you know and i think that validates

1907
01:13:20,070 --> 01:13:17,040
honestly the government's position maybe

1908
01:13:22,550 --> 01:13:20,080
that just was kind of a crazy year and

1909
01:13:23,110 --> 01:13:22,560
people acted really like immature like

1910
01:13:24,310 --> 01:13:23,120
they just

1911
01:13:25,990 --> 01:13:24,320
they really know how to handle the

1912
01:13:26,790 --> 01:13:26,000
situation which i was surprised how

1913
01:13:28,790 --> 01:13:26,800
poorly

1914
01:13:30,830 --> 01:13:28,800
like we as a society as a world kind of

1915
01:13:33,990 --> 01:13:30,840
handled that whole situation

1916
01:13:36,149 --> 01:13:34,000
so i mean it kind of shows that

1917
01:13:37,430 --> 01:13:36,159
the people in government are just humans

1918
01:13:39,750 --> 01:13:37,440
right i mean like the

1919
01:13:40,550 --> 01:13:39,760
like lou said in many interviews there

1920
01:13:42,790 --> 01:13:40,560
he were

1921
01:13:43,750 --> 01:13:42,800
he had resistance in the department of

1922
01:13:46,310 --> 01:13:43,760
defense because

1923
01:13:47,669 --> 01:13:46,320
some high-ranking officials thought they

1924
01:13:50,870 --> 01:13:47,679
were literal demons

1925
01:13:53,030 --> 01:13:50,880
like like demons like uh

1926
01:13:54,390 --> 01:13:53,040
like i i'm not really subscribed to that

1927
01:13:57,189 --> 01:13:54,400
point but even

1928
01:13:57,990 --> 01:13:57,199
if it is a demon like it's humans are

1929
01:14:01,830 --> 01:13:58,000
just very

1930
01:14:05,030 --> 01:14:01,840
um ignorant in a way and then scared of

1931
01:14:06,950 --> 01:14:05,040
changes scared of um new ideas

1932
01:14:08,470 --> 01:14:06,960
like back in the days we were scared to

1933
01:14:11,910 --> 01:14:08,480
say earth wasn't

1934
01:14:14,550 --> 01:14:11,920
in the center of the universe i mean

1935
01:14:15,430 --> 01:14:14,560
i think the just the the resistance to

1936
01:14:17,990 --> 01:14:15,440
new idea

1937
01:14:18,950 --> 01:14:18,000
also applies to the ufo topic especially

1938
01:14:21,750 --> 01:14:18,960
in terms of

1939
01:14:22,550 --> 01:14:21,760
um theology and our ideas about where we

1940
01:14:24,550 --> 01:14:22,560
come from

1941
01:14:25,910 --> 01:14:24,560
and that and that idea of you know this

1942
01:14:27,669 --> 01:14:25,920
is demonic this is something you

1943
01:14:27,990 --> 01:14:27,679
shouldn't study goes all the way back to

1944
01:14:34,870 --> 01:14:28,000
the

1945
01:14:36,470 --> 01:14:34,880
interview with dolan he's like he got

1946
01:14:37,990 --> 01:14:36,480
really animated he's like why are those

1947
01:14:39,590 --> 01:14:38,000
people still there why haven't they

1948
01:14:40,630 --> 01:14:39,600
gotten fired it's like

1949
01:14:42,310 --> 01:14:40,640
you know they're keeping us from

1950
01:14:43,350 --> 01:14:42,320
studying this and i'm open to everything

1951
01:14:45,510 --> 01:14:43,360
maybe some of this

1952
01:14:46,870 --> 01:14:45,520
is acting like a demon whatever but we

1953
01:14:47,990 --> 01:14:46,880
need to study it and figure it out and

1954
01:14:49,590 --> 01:14:48,000
somebody said

1955
01:14:51,430 --> 01:14:49,600
wouldn't christians want to know if it's

1956
01:14:53,910 --> 01:14:51,440
demonic so we can fight it it's like

1957
01:14:56,550 --> 01:14:53,920
you know that we're powerful you know so

1958
01:14:59,270 --> 01:14:56,560
yeah it's a great point and um

1959
01:15:00,390 --> 01:14:59,280
so one impre intriguing thing about the

1960
01:15:02,950 --> 01:15:00,400
report that i think so

1961
01:15:05,030 --> 01:15:02,960
this is the next step for me i think um

1962
01:15:06,790 --> 01:15:05,040
and i operate in like biotech and pharma

1963
01:15:09,430 --> 01:15:06,800
so we're always looking thinking about

1964
01:15:10,470 --> 01:15:09,440
catalysts and next milestones to me the

1965
01:15:12,550 --> 01:15:10,480
report said

1966
01:15:14,070 --> 01:15:12,560
uh additional investment needed to be

1967
01:15:16,470 --> 01:15:14,080
able to adequately

1968
01:15:17,590 --> 01:15:16,480
accurately test and assess and you know

1969
01:15:20,709 --> 01:15:17,600
analyze

1970
01:15:22,550 --> 01:15:20,719
these phenomena and so to me the next

1971
01:15:23,990 --> 01:15:22,560
step is will they get funding for this

1972
01:15:26,310 --> 01:15:24,000
so that's like the next question

1973
01:15:28,149 --> 01:15:26,320
i think for like the community is to

1974
01:15:28,390 --> 01:15:28,159
find that out if they're going to fund

1975
01:15:30,950 --> 01:15:28,400
it

1976
01:15:31,990 --> 01:15:30,960
because if that's the case i think then

1977
01:15:33,910 --> 01:15:32,000
this is a real

1978
01:15:36,149 --> 01:15:33,920
positive and there's going to be much

1979
01:15:36,630 --> 01:15:36,159
more to come will we be briefed on it as

1980
01:15:49,990 --> 01:15:36,640
a

1981
01:15:51,990 --> 01:15:50,000
the insider of the community i don't

1982
01:15:55,030 --> 01:15:52,000
consider myself part of it really right

1983
01:15:57,910 --> 01:15:55,040
i'm watching this and and i you know

1984
01:15:58,390 --> 01:15:57,920
i'm looking for the evidence too and i

1985
01:16:00,390 --> 01:15:58,400
see

1986
01:16:02,550 --> 01:16:00,400
substantial momentum that's like

1987
01:16:05,189 --> 01:16:02,560
unstoppable at this point

1988
01:16:05,990 --> 01:16:05,199
that will it probably will take a decade

1989
01:16:08,070 --> 01:16:06,000
it'll be probably

1990
01:16:09,510 --> 01:16:08,080
taking it's enough time for all the old

1991
01:16:10,950 --> 01:16:09,520
uh

1992
01:16:12,229 --> 01:16:10,960
whatever you want to call them that it

1993
01:16:14,470 --> 01:16:12,239
you know the the people who are so

1994
01:16:17,910 --> 01:16:14,480
entrenched in dod etc

1995
01:16:20,470 --> 01:16:17,920
die retire etc it could be a whole

1996
01:16:22,870 --> 01:16:20,480
generation before it's done but to me

1997
01:16:24,950 --> 01:16:22,880
it's it's you know this is happening

1998
01:16:27,430 --> 01:16:24,960
it's just going to be a matter of time

1999
01:16:29,030 --> 01:16:27,440
and i think we just like as a as a ufo

2000
01:16:32,709 --> 01:16:29,040
community would have to do

2001
01:16:35,830 --> 01:16:32,719
keep expectations real patience is key

2002
01:16:38,149 --> 01:16:35,840
uh delayed gratification but it's uh

2003
01:16:41,189 --> 01:16:38,159
it's undeniable to me at this point

2004
01:16:44,870 --> 01:16:41,199
so yo

2005
01:16:47,750 --> 01:16:44,880
yes you know what sarah

2006
01:16:48,870 --> 01:16:47,760
yo what's up hello you know i gotta say

2007
01:16:52,630 --> 01:16:48,880
something and i'm

2008
01:16:56,390 --> 01:16:52,640
um i gotta say it straight nine pages

2009
01:17:07,830 --> 01:16:58,950
page two pages are appendix yeah so

2010
01:17:12,070 --> 01:17:10,149
we know there are other programs that

2011
01:17:14,470 --> 01:17:12,080
are suiting the ufo

2012
01:17:15,189 --> 01:17:14,480
more funding first of all why are you

2013
01:17:18,229 --> 01:17:15,199
like

2014
01:17:20,149 --> 01:17:18,239
suddenly omitting or not mentioning what

2015
01:17:22,149 --> 01:17:20,159
about all these other programs in the us

2016
01:17:24,709 --> 01:17:22,159
government why the report system saying

2017
01:17:26,790 --> 01:17:24,719
anything about that why the report is

2018
01:17:30,149 --> 01:17:26,800
saying like totally personal

2019
01:17:32,950 --> 01:17:30,159
uh there's no mention of the uh the

2020
01:17:34,790 --> 01:17:32,960
classified i guess uh eric davies

2021
01:17:37,510 --> 01:17:34,800
briefings about off-world

2022
01:17:39,189 --> 01:17:37,520
vehicles there's nothing about that like

2023
01:17:40,149 --> 01:17:39,199
honestly i know some people don't want

2024
01:17:43,189 --> 01:17:40,159
to go there but like

2025
01:17:46,550 --> 01:17:43,199
it's 2021 why there is no mention of the

2026
01:17:50,310 --> 01:17:46,560
report of the link historical link

2027
01:17:53,750 --> 01:17:50,320
between you know non-human forms

2028
01:17:56,630 --> 01:17:53,760
abductions and uaps ufos

2029
01:17:59,350 --> 01:17:56,640
when the this same report also mentions

2030
01:18:01,030 --> 01:17:59,360
you know analyzing historical data

2031
01:18:02,709 --> 01:18:01,040
the report for me is totally

2032
01:18:03,990 --> 01:18:02,719
contradictory rich thoroughly

2033
01:18:10,070 --> 01:18:04,000
schizophrenic

2034
01:18:12,470 --> 01:18:10,080
honestly i was expecting a historical

2035
01:18:13,189 --> 01:18:12,480
day i think it's already too late for us

2036
01:18:16,550 --> 01:18:13,199
to

2037
01:18:20,229 --> 01:18:16,560
like

2038
01:18:22,310 --> 01:18:20,239
usual know um

2039
01:18:23,350 --> 01:18:22,320
uh is going on in this world which is

2040
01:18:27,510 --> 01:18:23,360
like there's a lot of

2041
01:18:29,830 --> 01:18:27,520
non-human presence's presence is uh

2042
01:18:31,510 --> 01:18:29,840
living among us and denying it just kind

2043
01:18:34,630 --> 01:18:31,520
of foolish

2044
01:18:36,550 --> 01:18:34,640
well i didn't remember i didn't expect

2045
01:18:37,189 --> 01:18:36,560
them to talk about a crash retrieval

2046
01:18:40,149 --> 01:18:37,199
program

2047
01:18:41,990 --> 01:18:40,159
i did not expect that um but i did i was

2048
01:18:43,590 --> 01:18:42,000
hopeful that they would

2049
01:18:45,110 --> 01:18:43,600
you know when you're when your committee

2050
01:18:46,550 --> 01:18:45,120
is briefed by the people who are

2051
01:18:47,430 --> 01:18:46,560
collecting the information and they're

2052
01:18:49,669 --> 01:18:47,440
telling you

2053
01:18:51,750 --> 01:18:49,679
they believe some of these are off world

2054
01:18:54,310 --> 01:18:51,760
i would i would i was hopeful

2055
01:18:55,750 --> 01:18:54,320
that might be in the report but i i i

2056
01:18:56,870 --> 01:18:55,760
figured that it would not be because

2057
01:18:58,630 --> 01:18:56,880
they don't think

2058
01:19:00,870 --> 01:18:58,640
people are ready for it we're ready for

2059
01:19:03,669 --> 01:19:00,880
it you know for us even the most

2060
01:19:04,149 --> 01:19:03,679
intense scary situations to us most of

2061
01:19:06,310 --> 01:19:04,159
us is

2062
01:19:07,430 --> 01:19:06,320
is interesting you know but for the

2063
01:19:09,189 --> 01:19:07,440
world

2064
01:19:11,030 --> 01:19:09,199
you know i'm but i don't know if i don't

2065
01:19:12,550 --> 01:19:11,040
know if somebody like rubio knows

2066
01:19:14,470 --> 01:19:12,560
you know you hear theories that there's

2067
01:19:15,350 --> 01:19:14,480
there's a group here that's in favor of

2068
01:19:16,950 --> 01:19:15,360
us you hear

2069
01:19:18,310 --> 01:19:16,960
there's a group here that hasn't doesn't

2070
01:19:19,990 --> 01:19:18,320
have our best interests at heart does

2071
01:19:21,510 --> 01:19:20,000
rupee don't know any of that i mean

2072
01:19:23,590 --> 01:19:21,520
do we have data on that from those

2073
01:19:24,630 --> 01:19:23,600
programs those special access programs

2074
01:19:26,790 --> 01:19:24,640
that have existed so

2075
01:19:29,030 --> 01:19:26,800
you do have you're you're a normal

2076
01:19:31,430 --> 01:19:29,040
citizen and you have all these data

2077
01:19:32,870 --> 01:19:31,440
even if it's completely even if it's

2078
01:19:35,830 --> 01:19:32,880
contradictory

2079
01:19:36,070 --> 01:19:35,840
by you you generate it at that rate you

2080
01:19:38,870 --> 01:19:36,080
know

2081
01:19:40,310 --> 01:19:38,880
and not mentioning any of this it's just

2082
01:19:42,149 --> 01:19:40,320
kind of like

2083
01:19:44,390 --> 01:19:42,159
kind of weird honestly because also the

2084
01:19:47,350 --> 01:19:44,400
report goes to say that this is not

2085
01:19:48,390 --> 01:19:47,360
any adverse adversarial technology you

2086
01:19:51,110 --> 01:19:48,400
know like

2087
01:19:53,510 --> 01:19:51,120
and then it generates these others uh

2088
01:19:55,430 --> 01:19:53,520
compartment but this other compartment

2089
01:19:56,950 --> 01:19:55,440
it gets nullified immediately saying

2090
01:19:59,430 --> 01:19:56,960
that there is not enough

2091
01:20:00,790 --> 01:19:59,440
scientific advancement to reach a

2092
01:20:02,470 --> 01:20:00,800
conclusion

2093
01:20:05,270 --> 01:20:02,480
what does that mean you know you know

2094
01:20:07,590 --> 01:20:05,280
what a pilot i mean face to face with a

2095
01:20:08,870 --> 01:20:07,600
an object in the middle of the ocean

2096
01:20:10,790 --> 01:20:08,880
multiplayer sensors

2097
01:20:13,189 --> 01:20:10,800
and saying like you don't know what is

2098
01:20:15,189 --> 01:20:13,199
it it's kind of weird

2099
01:20:16,310 --> 01:20:15,199
it doesn't yeah it's it is important

2100
01:20:17,590 --> 01:20:16,320
though that they're basically saying

2101
01:20:18,709 --> 01:20:17,600
they have no data for foreign

2102
01:20:20,390 --> 01:20:18,719
adversarial because

2103
01:20:21,990 --> 01:20:20,400
and they're basically telling you that

2104
01:20:24,870 --> 01:20:22,000
none of these reports

2105
01:20:26,310 --> 01:20:24,880
were our tech so it's like it leaves one

2106
01:20:27,350 --> 01:20:26,320
possibility that it's something

2107
01:20:30,229 --> 01:20:27,360
anomalous

2108
01:20:32,070 --> 01:20:30,239
and hopefully the media focuses on that

2109
01:20:34,790 --> 01:20:32,080
i mean it's critical to understand

2110
01:20:35,750 --> 01:20:34,800
in the report they did not realize the

2111
01:20:38,790 --> 01:20:35,760
quote-unquote

2112
01:20:41,270 --> 01:20:38,800
the other explanation it's kind of very

2113
01:20:42,229 --> 01:20:41,280
very funny how they put it they they

2114
01:20:44,550 --> 01:20:42,239
wanted to

2115
01:20:45,990 --> 01:20:44,560
um ignore it put it away they want to

2116
01:20:48,470 --> 01:20:46,000
put everything else in

2117
01:20:49,270 --> 01:20:48,480
front the area phenomena ice crystals

2118
01:20:52,310 --> 01:20:49,280
whatever

2119
01:20:53,430 --> 01:20:52,320
but they knew they could not exclude the

2120
01:20:55,830 --> 01:20:53,440
other option

2121
01:20:56,709 --> 01:20:55,840
because we literally don't know what it

2122
01:20:58,229 --> 01:20:56,719
is and

2123
01:21:00,070 --> 01:20:58,239
i think it's important to understand

2124
01:21:03,350 --> 01:21:00,080
that we're dealing with government

2125
01:21:05,750 --> 01:21:03,360
here i mean back in roswell when i was

2126
01:21:07,030 --> 01:21:05,760
researching into this just a little bit

2127
01:21:10,070 --> 01:21:07,040
united states had

2128
01:21:11,750 --> 01:21:10,080
had reports about the roswell reports

2129
01:21:13,350 --> 01:21:11,760
about roswell incidents and other

2130
01:21:16,229 --> 01:21:13,360
incidents too and it was

2131
01:21:17,990 --> 01:21:16,239
very similar to this oh it might be this

2132
01:21:19,750 --> 01:21:18,000
but we don't know we need

2133
01:21:21,189 --> 01:21:19,760
we need to figure it out basically and

2134
01:21:23,189 --> 01:21:21,199
we just don't know what it is

2135
01:21:25,030 --> 01:21:23,199
and it's always like this it's always

2136
01:21:27,110 --> 01:21:25,040
like this obfuscation

2137
01:21:29,189 --> 01:21:27,120
yeah they might exist they're probably

2138
01:21:30,310 --> 01:21:29,199
here we have data but we're not going to

2139
01:21:33,030 --> 01:21:30,320
show you the data

2140
01:21:34,870 --> 01:21:33,040
we're not going to show you what we um

2141
01:21:37,350 --> 01:21:34,880
reach this conclusion with

2142
01:21:38,709 --> 01:21:37,360
but just believe us we can we're working

2143
01:21:41,110 --> 01:21:38,719
on it basically

2144
01:21:42,229 --> 01:21:41,120
stop working on it within the government

2145
01:21:45,350 --> 01:21:42,239
release it to

2146
01:21:48,550 --> 01:21:45,360
major institutions like caltech mit

2147
01:21:50,470 --> 01:21:48,560
and other um other colleges and then

2148
01:21:52,229 --> 01:21:50,480
closely monitor it so it doesn't get to

2149
01:21:54,709 --> 01:21:52,239
our adversaries if that's

2150
01:21:55,590 --> 01:21:54,719
what they're worrying about you know

2151
01:21:57,910 --> 01:21:55,600
they cannot

2152
01:21:59,270 --> 01:21:57,920
crack this open in the government i mean

2153
01:22:01,430 --> 01:21:59,280
if we believe

2154
01:22:03,110 --> 01:22:01,440
like bob lazar's story and other

2155
01:22:05,510 --> 01:22:03,120
people's story about

2156
01:22:06,709 --> 01:22:05,520
crash retrieval and reverse engineering

2157
01:22:08,870 --> 01:22:06,719
let's say that's real

2158
01:22:10,390 --> 01:22:08,880
i don't know that's real i i believe

2159
01:22:13,189 --> 01:22:10,400
them but i'm not 100

2160
01:22:14,950 --> 01:22:13,199
sure but if that's real we clearly can't

2161
01:22:16,470 --> 01:22:14,960
crack it we we've been working on it for

2162
01:22:19,350 --> 01:22:16,480
50 got that mirrors with

2163
01:22:19,750 --> 01:22:19,360
the best scientists that they can find

2164
01:22:23,189 --> 01:22:19,760
they

2165
01:22:25,189 --> 01:22:23,199
closed environment

2166
01:22:26,390 --> 01:22:25,199
science can happen in that way like i

2167
01:22:28,790 --> 01:22:26,400
can't make science

2168
01:22:30,950 --> 01:22:28,800
on my own i need the internet i need

2169
01:22:32,390 --> 01:22:30,960
other people talking with me i need new

2170
01:22:38,070 --> 01:22:32,400
ideas

2171
01:22:39,590 --> 01:22:38,080
doesn't come on your own you know i

2172
01:22:41,990 --> 01:22:39,600
think

2173
01:22:43,750 --> 01:22:42,000
i don't yeah i just go ahead i just

2174
01:22:45,669 --> 01:22:43,760
wanted to say the outside government

2175
01:22:48,470 --> 01:22:45,679
approach is just really needed just

2176
01:22:49,990 --> 01:22:48,480
enough i agree it's locked up in special

2177
01:22:51,510 --> 01:22:50,000
access programs where the people the

2178
01:22:52,310 --> 01:22:51,520
amount of people who have access to the

2179
01:22:54,310 --> 01:22:52,320
data is so

2180
01:22:55,430 --> 01:22:54,320
tiny because they're afraid of security

2181
01:22:57,430 --> 01:22:55,440
concerns and our

2182
01:22:59,750 --> 01:22:57,440
our adversary is getting a hold of it

2183
01:23:01,270 --> 01:22:59,760
now i don't really want to throw cold

2184
01:23:03,830 --> 01:23:01,280
water on some ideas and

2185
01:23:05,669 --> 01:23:03,840
get even more depressing but there are

2186
01:23:05,990 --> 01:23:05,679
people that are on our side and they

2187
01:23:08,790 --> 01:23:06,000
want

2188
01:23:10,229 --> 01:23:08,800
a lot of this data out but they do not

2189
01:23:12,149 --> 01:23:10,239
think that we should just wheel out the

2190
01:23:12,870 --> 01:23:12,159
craft and say here you go science take a

2191
01:23:14,229 --> 01:23:12,880
look at it

2192
01:23:16,229 --> 01:23:14,239
you know so remember a lot of these

2193
01:23:18,149 --> 01:23:16,239
people have been embedded in the

2194
01:23:19,510 --> 01:23:18,159
military in these military jobs and

2195
01:23:20,149 --> 01:23:19,520
defense to industry and they have that

2196
01:23:22,149 --> 01:23:20,159
mentality

2197
01:23:24,310 --> 01:23:22,159
still that it's you know let's exploit

2198
01:23:25,189 --> 01:23:24,320
this technology for whatever means you

2199
01:23:26,629 --> 01:23:25,199
know it's really

2200
01:23:28,550 --> 01:23:26,639
it's disappointing but that's the

2201
01:23:29,910 --> 01:23:28,560
reality we live in i mean yeah i would

2202
01:23:31,189 --> 01:23:29,920
love for it to be where

2203
01:23:33,110 --> 01:23:31,199
we're like let's get together with

2204
01:23:34,950 --> 01:23:33,120
russia and china and lewis hinted at

2205
01:23:35,669 --> 01:23:34,960
this he's like hopefully one day we can

2206
01:23:37,030 --> 01:23:35,679
get there

2207
01:23:39,350 --> 01:23:37,040
if we can come together and that's why

2208
01:23:40,870 --> 01:23:39,360
he was saying you know maybe if people

2209
01:23:42,470 --> 01:23:40,880
know the truth we can come together like

2210
01:23:43,350 --> 01:23:42,480
reagan talked about you know to some

2211
01:23:45,030 --> 01:23:43,360
outside threat

2212
01:23:47,030 --> 01:23:45,040
even if it's not a threat it's like

2213
01:23:48,310 --> 01:23:47,040
maybe just the idea of a threat can get

2214
01:23:49,110 --> 01:23:48,320
different countries coming together and

2215
01:23:50,629 --> 01:23:49,120
say listen

2216
01:23:52,229 --> 01:23:50,639
we're all humans we need to deal with

2217
01:23:54,229 --> 01:23:52,239
this let's come together stop

2218
01:23:55,990 --> 01:23:54,239
fighting it's a pipe dream though i mean

2219
01:23:58,229 --> 01:23:56,000
look at the world

2220
01:23:59,030 --> 01:23:58,239
so but what's gonna happen what's gonna

2221
01:24:02,070 --> 01:23:59,040
happen

2222
01:24:05,110 --> 01:24:02,080
when and if this intelligence if

2223
01:24:06,310 --> 01:24:05,120
they exist decided to reveal themselves

2224
01:24:09,669 --> 01:24:06,320
and the governments

2225
01:24:12,550 --> 01:24:09,679
never and always were hiding they never

2226
01:24:13,110 --> 01:24:12,560
told us anything what happens if because

2227
01:24:15,030 --> 01:24:13,120
you know

2228
01:24:16,470 --> 01:24:15,040
as you said like there are many reports

2229
01:24:18,390 --> 01:24:16,480
of like the triangles

2230
01:24:19,669 --> 01:24:18,400
the shape of the triangles are they on a

2231
01:24:22,070 --> 01:24:19,679
scanning mission

2232
01:24:23,910 --> 01:24:22,080
are they on the hunt for information we

2233
01:24:26,470 --> 01:24:23,920
we don't know that's just a theory right

2234
01:24:28,149 --> 01:24:26,480
but what happens if one of these alien

2235
01:24:30,790 --> 01:24:28,159
are not so good theories come to

2236
01:24:31,669 --> 01:24:30,800
creation and one day we gotta face the

2237
01:24:35,510 --> 01:24:31,679
fact

2238
01:24:37,270 --> 01:24:35,520
isn't that even this uh way of behaving

2239
01:24:39,110 --> 01:24:37,280
when i'm talking about the government

2240
01:24:43,350 --> 01:24:39,120
leading us to a mass

2241
01:24:44,629 --> 01:24:43,360
shock no i agree and it's like they're

2242
01:24:46,629 --> 01:24:44,639
it's gonna be on them they're

2243
01:24:47,830 --> 01:24:46,639
obviously they're taking a chance that

2244
01:24:50,470 --> 01:24:47,840
the phenomenon is

2245
01:24:51,750 --> 01:24:50,480
not gonna show up in a mess with a mass

2246
01:24:53,350 --> 01:24:51,760
sighting they're taking the chances

2247
01:24:55,270 --> 01:24:53,360
because if that does happen

2248
01:24:57,030 --> 01:24:55,280
say we're at some major event maybe the

2249
01:24:58,709 --> 01:24:57,040
super bowl or some you know some soccer

2250
01:24:59,910 --> 01:24:58,719
event all sudden a thousand feet over

2251
01:25:01,830 --> 01:24:59,920
the stadium

2252
01:25:03,110 --> 01:25:01,840
there it is you know they're screwed

2253
01:25:03,590 --> 01:25:03,120
because they didn't prepare the public

2254
01:25:05,590 --> 01:25:03,600
for it

2255
01:25:07,910 --> 01:25:05,600
so i don't know if i don't know whoever

2256
01:25:09,350 --> 01:25:07,920
is here whether et or ultra terrestrial

2257
01:25:10,229 --> 01:25:09,360
whoever is here i don't know if there's

2258
01:25:12,149 --> 01:25:10,239
a timeline

2259
01:25:13,590 --> 01:25:12,159
for them to say listen we've given you

2260
01:25:14,550 --> 01:25:13,600
enough chances now we're going to start

2261
01:25:18,149 --> 01:25:14,560
showing ourselves

2262
01:25:19,030 --> 01:25:18,159
joe i kind of want to push back on that

2263
01:25:22,390 --> 01:25:19,040
a little bit

2264
01:25:24,390 --> 01:25:22,400
go ahead uh listen yo i have like a

2265
01:25:25,030 --> 01:25:24,400
spanish speaking podcast and i want to

2266
01:25:27,030 --> 01:25:25,040
tell you this

2267
01:25:28,870 --> 01:25:27,040
i think that some guy reported to me

2268
01:25:29,510 --> 01:25:28,880
like five six years ago but there was

2269
01:25:32,950 --> 01:25:29,520
like a

2270
01:25:36,629 --> 01:25:32,960
massive 200 people in a football field

2271
01:25:39,270 --> 01:25:36,639
like this pyramid shaped object but

2272
01:25:41,430 --> 01:25:39,280
it's like you say what if they try to

2273
01:25:42,149 --> 01:25:41,440
well if they have like an apparition and

2274
01:25:43,910 --> 01:25:42,159
it's massive

2275
01:25:45,510 --> 01:25:43,920
maybe this has already happened but just

2276
01:25:48,310 --> 01:25:45,520
not in the united states

2277
01:25:49,110 --> 01:25:48,320
you know what i'm saying like what i'm

2278
01:25:51,510 --> 01:25:49,120
trying to say

2279
01:25:53,270 --> 01:25:51,520
by all my comments please put the stupid

2280
01:25:55,830 --> 01:25:53,280
out there if i know that comes

2281
01:25:58,070 --> 01:25:55,840
said when are we gonna accept what's

2282
01:26:00,310 --> 01:25:58,080
actually happening

2283
01:26:01,350 --> 01:26:00,320
that's what i'm saying like what is the

2284
01:26:03,830 --> 01:26:01,360
evidence like

2285
01:26:05,910 --> 01:26:03,840
i'm pretty sure you're aware of it joe

2286
01:26:06,870 --> 01:26:05,920
about this sightings in south america

2287
01:26:09,030 --> 01:26:06,880
like he was saying

2288
01:26:11,110 --> 01:26:09,040
about the crafts that large amount of

2289
01:26:11,830 --> 01:26:11,120
people saw like phoenix lighting and

2290
01:26:13,750 --> 01:26:11,840
other

2291
01:26:15,189 --> 01:26:13,760
sightings like mad sightings like we

2292
01:26:17,430 --> 01:26:15,199
were talking about and

2293
01:26:19,910 --> 01:26:17,440
literally crafts show up people see it a

2294
01:26:22,950 --> 01:26:19,920
lot of people see it around it

2295
01:26:26,070 --> 01:26:22,960
that literally happens but

2296
01:26:28,390 --> 01:26:26,080
still denies it still goes away and that

2297
01:26:30,790 --> 01:26:28,400
impresses me because

2298
01:26:31,669 --> 01:26:30,800
like we we literally saw it thousands of

2299
01:26:33,430 --> 01:26:31,679
people saw it

2300
01:26:35,270 --> 01:26:33,440
thousands of people reported it their

2301
01:26:38,310 --> 01:26:35,280
police report about it people were

2302
01:26:41,590 --> 01:26:38,320
scared about it but it went away

2303
01:26:44,390 --> 01:26:41,600
but what's different now i think is

2304
01:26:45,110 --> 01:26:44,400
the pressure from the bottom is so hard

2305
01:26:47,270 --> 01:26:45,120
it's

2306
01:26:49,189 --> 01:26:47,280
and then the people like lou elizando

2307
01:26:51,430 --> 01:26:49,199
and krista mellen people from inside who

2308
01:26:53,350 --> 01:26:51,440
actually know because we don't know how

2309
01:26:54,950 --> 01:26:53,360
government actually works right like we

2310
01:26:57,590 --> 01:26:54,960
don't know the interest group we don't

2311
01:27:00,310 --> 01:26:57,600
know the settingers we can't push the

2312
01:27:01,189 --> 01:27:00,320
you know we don't have the lobbyists but

2313
01:27:03,110 --> 01:27:01,199
they do and

2314
01:27:05,510 --> 01:27:03,120
i think they are doing that behind the

2315
01:27:05,910 --> 01:27:05,520
scenes by pushing the lobbyists pushing

2316
01:27:09,110 --> 01:27:05,920
the

2317
01:27:11,110 --> 01:27:09,120
senators to actually um get down to it

2318
01:27:13,910 --> 01:27:11,120
and i think that's why we have

2319
01:27:14,790 --> 01:27:13,920
this this report at least saying that

2320
01:27:17,110 --> 01:27:14,800
that could be

2321
01:27:19,110 --> 01:27:17,120
other thing because back in the days

2322
01:27:20,870 --> 01:27:19,120
like phoenix lighting even when a

2323
01:27:24,070 --> 01:27:20,880
literal craft showed up

2324
01:27:25,430 --> 01:27:24,080
they always dismiss dismiss dismiss uh

2325
01:27:28,229 --> 01:27:25,440
swamp gas whatever

2326
01:27:29,350 --> 01:27:28,239
you know but now they're oh there's

2327
01:27:35,350 --> 01:27:29,360
something there

2328
01:27:36,950 --> 01:27:35,360
just chiming in here oh sorry guys i was

2329
01:27:39,910 --> 01:27:36,960
just gonna say wasn't this gonna

2330
01:27:41,990 --> 01:27:39,920
catalyze like more video release from

2331
01:27:43,990 --> 01:27:42,000
lou or jeremy i think jeremy said

2332
01:27:46,950 --> 01:27:44,000
specifically after the release

2333
01:27:48,149 --> 01:27:46,960
there's gonna be more video coming out

2334
01:27:52,149 --> 01:27:48,159
that's clear

2335
01:27:52,709 --> 01:27:52,159
like super clear so i know jeremy is not

2336
01:27:55,030 --> 01:27:52,719
done

2337
01:27:56,229 --> 01:27:55,040
um i don't know i do not know exactly

2338
01:27:59,669 --> 01:27:56,239
what he has

2339
01:28:02,390 --> 01:27:59,679
um but we need you know the slow

2340
01:28:04,229 --> 01:28:02,400
release of whatever he has over a period

2341
01:28:05,350 --> 01:28:04,239
of time i think is a smart thing because

2342
01:28:06,870 --> 01:28:05,360
to me like

2343
01:28:08,550 --> 01:28:06,880
even with sightings you know people lose

2344
01:28:10,229 --> 01:28:08,560
interest the media loses interest and we

2345
01:28:11,030 --> 01:28:10,239
need to keep it going so new sightings

2346
01:28:13,590 --> 01:28:11,040
agree that

2347
01:28:15,270 --> 01:28:13,600
are important to do it that way um one

2348
01:28:17,110 --> 01:28:15,280
important thing that rubio said

2349
01:28:18,470 --> 01:28:17,120
when the report was released he said we

2350
01:28:20,709 --> 01:28:18,480
need to figure out

2351
01:28:21,590 --> 01:28:20,719
if this is a threat that basically tells

2352
01:28:23,350 --> 01:28:21,600
you he doesn't think

2353
01:28:25,430 --> 01:28:23,360
it's russia or china because if it was

2354
01:28:25,990 --> 01:28:25,440
russia or china automatically it's a

2355
01:28:28,390 --> 01:28:26,000
threat

2356
01:28:29,270 --> 01:28:28,400
to them stealing our you know whatever

2357
01:28:30,550 --> 01:28:29,280
they're doing

2358
01:28:32,310 --> 01:28:30,560
they're getting interest they're getting

2359
01:28:33,430 --> 01:28:32,320
information on our training for you know

2360
01:28:35,350 --> 01:28:33,440
when we're doing training

2361
01:28:37,350 --> 01:28:35,360
they're soaking up all that data so he's

2362
01:28:38,709 --> 01:28:37,360
basically without saying it he's

2363
01:28:41,669 --> 01:28:38,719
basically saying

2364
01:28:43,430 --> 01:28:41,679
it's unknown he's not saying it's i

2365
01:28:43,910 --> 01:28:43,440
don't expect him to say extraterrestrial

2366
01:28:46,229 --> 01:28:43,920
because no

2367
01:28:48,229 --> 01:28:46,239
i don't think anybody any of us know if

2368
01:28:49,990 --> 01:28:48,239
it's extraterrestrial maybe what even is

2369
01:28:51,430 --> 01:28:50,000
extraterrestrial that's the question

2370
01:28:53,669 --> 01:28:51,440
it's just

2371
01:28:54,870 --> 01:28:53,679
like i'll just and i always try to i

2372
01:28:57,030 --> 01:28:54,880
always struggle to come up

2373
01:28:58,550 --> 01:28:57,040
with a word to expl like say something

2374
01:29:00,470 --> 01:28:58,560
that's here

2375
01:29:02,629 --> 01:29:00,480
it's like you know ultra-terrestrial

2376
01:29:04,550 --> 01:29:02,639
something john keel came up with um

2377
01:29:06,229 --> 01:29:04,560
like is it an animal like we could call

2378
01:29:08,709 --> 01:29:06,239
it an animal right i mean it's

2379
01:29:10,390 --> 01:29:08,719
yeah it's like yeah it's it's difficult

2380
01:29:12,470 --> 01:29:10,400
to actually define it something that's

2381
01:29:15,270 --> 01:29:12,480
not part of this society is like

2382
01:29:16,709 --> 01:29:15,280
is a different definition that you know

2383
01:29:20,470 --> 01:29:16,719
that's not that's not

2384
01:29:23,990 --> 01:29:22,149
but what if it's us from the future you

2385
01:29:25,270 --> 01:29:24,000
know what if it's an another a type of

2386
01:29:27,350 --> 01:29:25,280
human that you know

2387
01:29:28,550 --> 01:29:27,360
that's why i'm always careful and like i

2388
01:29:29,910 --> 01:29:28,560
i start saying

2389
01:29:31,350 --> 01:29:29,920
what i'm intelligent like what if it's

2390
01:29:33,030 --> 01:29:31,360
not intelligent at all like what if it

2391
01:29:33,750 --> 01:29:33,040
like i kind of bite of the theory that

2392
01:29:37,990 --> 01:29:33,760
it's

2393
01:29:40,390 --> 01:29:38,000
around us that we just can't see because

2394
01:29:41,110 --> 01:29:40,400
our our eyes can't see it so it's like

2395
01:29:45,270 --> 01:29:41,120
like

2396
01:29:46,070 --> 01:29:45,280
intelligence non-world intelligence

2397
01:29:47,590 --> 01:29:46,080
whether that be

2398
01:29:49,189 --> 01:29:47,600
us from the future whether it be

2399
01:29:50,470 --> 01:29:49,199
extraterrestrial ultra uh

2400
01:29:51,669 --> 01:29:50,480
interdimensional all those things i

2401
01:29:53,990 --> 01:29:51,679
think the easiest way to say is just

2402
01:29:56,470 --> 01:29:54,000
like not human intelligence or

2403
01:29:57,430 --> 01:29:56,480
awkward off-world intelligence and

2404
01:29:58,950 --> 01:29:57,440
that's what they're using that's what

2405
01:30:01,189 --> 01:29:58,960
they're being told this is all you know

2406
01:30:03,350 --> 01:30:01,199
some of these are off-world vehicles so

2407
01:30:04,390 --> 01:30:03,360
that's their that's the uap task force

2408
01:30:07,910 --> 01:30:04,400
term

2409
01:30:10,310 --> 01:30:07,920
um so i just wanted that one one thing

2410
01:30:11,990 --> 01:30:10,320
what was everyone's expectations going

2411
01:30:15,270 --> 01:30:12,000
into today because this actually

2412
01:30:16,550 --> 01:30:15,280
like far exceeded my expectations me too

2413
01:30:18,310 --> 01:30:16,560
yeah i was like what are your

2414
01:30:20,070 --> 01:30:18,320
expectations brother

2415
01:30:21,669 --> 01:30:20,080
i i honestly thought they were just

2416
01:30:23,669 --> 01:30:21,679
going to try to explain

2417
01:30:25,430 --> 01:30:23,679
everything as as just foreign drones

2418
01:30:26,229 --> 01:30:25,440
that that the other category that's on

2419
01:30:28,709 --> 01:30:26,239
the report

2420
01:30:29,270 --> 01:30:28,719
like blue blue expectations away the

2421
01:30:33,189 --> 01:30:29,280
other

2422
01:30:34,229 --> 01:30:33,199
like but not even just the fact that

2423
01:30:35,830 --> 01:30:34,239
they said that they said there's there's

2424
01:30:37,270 --> 01:30:35,840
some things that require more science

2425
01:30:38,629 --> 01:30:37,280
scientific advancements so it's because

2426
01:30:39,110 --> 01:30:38,639
like we just can't we can't understand

2427
01:30:40,870 --> 01:30:39,120
it yet

2428
01:30:42,550 --> 01:30:40,880
and like they're gonna spend money to

2429
01:30:44,070 --> 01:30:42,560
investigate that i think that's like

2430
01:30:45,350 --> 01:30:44,080
way more than i would have ever expected

2431
01:30:46,310 --> 01:30:45,360
i thought they're just gonna just

2432
01:30:48,870 --> 01:30:46,320
completely

2433
01:30:50,790 --> 01:30:48,880
try to kind of not like [\h__\h] on you for

2434
01:30:53,270 --> 01:30:50,800
twitter but just like really really

2435
01:30:53,910 --> 01:30:53,280
concentrate project blue boost style

2436
01:30:55,510 --> 01:30:53,920
like just

2437
01:30:56,870 --> 01:30:55,520
no not even not even that but yeah

2438
01:30:57,510 --> 01:30:56,880
actually yeah similar to project blue

2439
01:30:58,950 --> 01:30:57,520
but even like

2440
01:31:00,790 --> 01:30:58,960
like more definitive because like

2441
01:31:02,149 --> 01:31:00,800
project blue but kind of left it still

2442
01:31:03,030 --> 01:31:02,159
open-ended a little bit like i thought

2443
01:31:05,189 --> 01:31:03,040
it was gonna be like

2444
01:31:06,550 --> 01:31:05,199
definitive being like this is gonna be

2445
01:31:08,310 --> 01:31:06,560
all all the ufo people

2446
01:31:10,790 --> 01:31:08,320
are gonna are gonna i guess like this is

2447
01:31:13,910 --> 01:31:10,800
china or russia

2448
01:31:16,709 --> 01:31:13,920
okay or nothing none of the above i was

2449
01:31:18,709 --> 01:31:16,719
not expecting the other category at all

2450
01:31:20,629 --> 01:31:18,719
yeah no it confirmed it meant my

2451
01:31:22,070 --> 01:31:20,639
expectations which were low by the way

2452
01:31:23,510 --> 01:31:22,080
so not like high expectations

2453
01:31:26,870 --> 01:31:23,520
but they confirmed that these are real

2454
01:31:29,270 --> 01:31:26,880
they these are real solid objects

2455
01:31:30,629 --> 01:31:29,280
that's important because one idea i

2456
01:31:32,229 --> 01:31:30,639
thought of originally with the

2457
01:31:33,750 --> 01:31:32,239
the triangle footage from the ship the

2458
01:31:35,750 --> 01:31:33,760
uss kit i think it was

2459
01:31:37,350 --> 01:31:35,760
um you know in theory there is

2460
01:31:38,390 --> 01:31:37,360
technology out there you could create a

2461
01:31:41,189 --> 01:31:38,400
lot of spoofing

2462
01:31:42,709 --> 01:31:41,199
visually you know through sensors but

2463
01:31:44,070 --> 01:31:42,719
the fact that they confirm it and they

2464
01:31:46,310 --> 01:31:44,080
confirm that

2465
01:31:47,430 --> 01:31:46,320
they didn't try to just push away that

2466
01:31:49,590 --> 01:31:47,440
other category

2467
01:31:50,950 --> 01:31:49,600
and they acknowledged the stigmatism

2468
01:31:52,790 --> 01:31:50,960
with the ufo

2469
01:31:55,030 --> 01:31:52,800
right and be reporting these things so

2470
01:31:57,030 --> 01:31:55,040
to me it's the beginning

2471
01:31:58,790 --> 01:31:57,040
it's to me it did meet the low

2472
01:31:59,750 --> 01:31:58,800
expectations it did not do real

2473
01:32:01,590 --> 01:31:59,760
disclosure

2474
01:32:03,430 --> 01:32:01,600
but i didn't have that expectation like

2475
01:32:04,149 --> 01:32:03,440
a lot of people did so and i don't think

2476
01:32:07,990 --> 01:32:04,159
that

2477
01:32:10,149 --> 01:32:08,000
like suddenly right it's going to be a

2478
01:32:11,590 --> 01:32:10,159
process generational like i said earlier

2479
01:32:12,950 --> 01:32:11,600
i think so sorry

2480
01:32:14,790 --> 01:32:12,960
one thing i thought the report did

2481
01:32:16,629 --> 01:32:14,800
really really well is it's like there's

2482
01:32:17,830 --> 01:32:16,639
no way anyone in congress can be like no

2483
01:32:19,270 --> 01:32:17,840
we don't want to fund this anymore like

2484
01:32:21,030 --> 01:32:19,280
they address

2485
01:32:22,870 --> 01:32:21,040
their points made it very very clear

2486
01:32:25,110 --> 01:32:22,880
that we need more funding

2487
01:32:26,709 --> 01:32:25,120
we there's potential for four new uap

2488
01:32:28,870 --> 01:32:26,719
teams they say at the bottom they're

2489
01:32:31,030 --> 01:32:28,880
like i think we're definitely gonna get

2490
01:32:32,550 --> 01:32:31,040
some some this is an amazing step

2491
01:32:33,510 --> 01:32:32,560
forwards i think for the next five ten

2492
01:32:34,229 --> 01:32:33,520
years they're gonna be really really

2493
01:32:36,470 --> 01:32:34,239
good for people

2494
01:32:38,070 --> 01:32:36,480
i totally agree totally agree i think

2495
01:32:40,070 --> 01:32:38,080
the people i'm cautiously

2496
01:32:43,110 --> 01:32:40,080
i'm cautiously optimistic about this

2497
01:32:44,870 --> 01:32:43,120
because i was very enthusiastic in 2001

2498
01:32:45,830 --> 01:32:44,880
when dr greer did the press club

2499
01:32:49,270 --> 01:32:45,840
briefing

2500
01:32:52,149 --> 01:32:49,280
and all those people came out with

2501
01:32:53,669 --> 01:32:52,159
and these were very valid uh pilots and

2502
01:32:53,990 --> 01:32:53,679
military people and they were talking

2503
01:32:55,590 --> 01:32:54,000
about

2504
01:32:57,669 --> 01:32:55,600
this like this is going on we need to

2505
01:33:00,550 --> 01:32:57,679
address it and

2506
01:33:02,070 --> 01:33:00,560
not much really happened after that so

2507
01:33:03,350 --> 01:33:02,080
i'm i'm hopeful that things are going to

2508
01:33:05,830 --> 01:33:03,360
move forward and that

2509
01:33:07,350 --> 01:33:05,840
and serious people in government and the

2510
01:33:09,910 --> 01:33:07,360
military are going to

2511
01:33:10,709 --> 01:33:09,920
talk about this publicly with the media

2512
01:33:13,030 --> 01:33:10,719
and and

2513
01:33:14,070 --> 01:33:13,040
keep the ball moving but i also

2514
01:33:16,870 --> 01:33:14,080
understand that

2515
01:33:18,070 --> 01:33:16,880
20 years have gone by since uh the press

2516
01:33:20,070 --> 01:33:18,080
club briefing

2517
01:33:22,470 --> 01:33:20,080
and uh here we are looking at a seven

2518
01:33:24,390 --> 01:33:22,480
page document that's kind of like

2519
01:33:25,669 --> 01:33:24,400
maybe something's out there maybe i

2520
01:33:28,070 --> 01:33:25,679
would say it's

2521
01:33:29,830 --> 01:33:28,080
actually it looking at kind of a

2522
01:33:31,350 --> 01:33:29,840
disappointing part of the report

2523
01:33:33,030 --> 01:33:31,360
i would say this it was extremely

2524
01:33:33,830 --> 01:33:33,040
disappointing that they didn't give us

2525
01:33:40,310 --> 01:33:33,840
any new

2526
01:33:42,870 --> 01:33:40,320
because

2527
01:33:44,790 --> 01:33:42,880
all of the data that came out regarding

2528
01:33:46,550 --> 01:33:44,800
the uap stuff

2529
01:33:48,070 --> 01:33:46,560
was not from the government that's

2530
01:33:50,709 --> 01:33:48,080
really important to realize

2531
01:33:51,430 --> 01:33:50,719
all the pictures all the sensor data all

2532
01:33:53,750 --> 01:33:51,440
all of it

2533
01:33:55,830 --> 01:33:53,760
is from the journalists who who did the

2534
01:33:58,070 --> 01:33:55,840
work and they will find whistleblowers

2535
01:33:58,950 --> 01:33:58,080
who find leakers government did not

2536
01:34:01,590 --> 01:33:58,960
release that

2537
01:34:03,430 --> 01:34:01,600
we people released that the journalists

2538
01:34:04,229 --> 01:34:03,440
released that after finding it on their

2539
01:34:07,350 --> 01:34:04,239
own

2540
01:34:08,709 --> 01:34:07,360
and then government confirmed it so the

2541
01:34:11,430 --> 01:34:08,719
government is still

2542
01:34:12,629 --> 01:34:11,440
unwilling to provide any data literally

2543
01:34:16,070 --> 01:34:12,639
any data

2544
01:34:18,470 --> 01:34:16,080
even the quote-unquote unclassified the

2545
01:34:20,470 --> 01:34:18,480
gimbal data that cuts off at the end the

2546
01:34:22,950 --> 01:34:20,480
unclassified tick tech data

2547
01:34:23,750 --> 01:34:22,960
that that's that's not fully there you

2548
01:34:25,910 --> 01:34:23,760
know they

2549
01:34:27,750 --> 01:34:25,920
they have bigger data they're not

2550
01:34:30,310 --> 01:34:27,760
they're never going to release any data

2551
01:34:31,189 --> 01:34:30,320
unless they're required to so people

2552
01:34:34,070 --> 01:34:31,199
like you joe

2553
01:34:35,590 --> 01:34:34,080
and other jeremy corbell and other new

2554
01:34:37,189 --> 01:34:35,600
people you know people who's listening

2555
01:34:39,189 --> 01:34:37,199
to this we have to

2556
01:34:40,790 --> 01:34:39,199
call our congressmen pressure them

2557
01:34:41,510 --> 01:34:40,800
because they're the one with real power

2558
01:34:44,030 --> 01:34:41,520
and then

2559
01:34:46,390 --> 01:34:44,040
they can actually force the

2560
01:34:48,070 --> 01:34:46,400
military-industrial complex to release

2561
01:34:49,830 --> 01:34:48,080
these documents and information because

2562
01:34:50,790 --> 01:34:49,840
i don't think they want to i don't think

2563
01:34:54,790 --> 01:34:50,800
they

2564
01:34:57,030 --> 01:34:54,800
to add what you're saying

2565
01:34:58,550 --> 01:34:57,040
people say why is exactly why is the

2566
01:35:01,270 --> 01:34:58,560
government doing this now

2567
01:35:02,870 --> 01:35:01,280
the government is not doing this now it

2568
01:35:05,030 --> 01:35:02,880
all started

2569
01:35:06,709 --> 01:35:05,040
when luis elizondo had a place to go

2570
01:35:08,470 --> 01:35:06,719
when he wanted to resign he resigned and

2571
01:35:11,830 --> 01:35:08,480
him and melanie went to work

2572
01:35:13,590 --> 01:35:11,840
you know 2017. yeah mellon used his uh

2573
01:35:13,990 --> 01:35:13,600
capitol hill connections and got lou to

2574
01:35:16,229 --> 01:35:14,000
brief some

2575
01:35:17,590 --> 01:35:16,239
people and they brought up alex dietrich

2576
01:35:19,830 --> 01:35:17,600
and david fravor

2577
01:35:21,189 --> 01:35:19,840
and you know that's why now it's those

2578
01:35:22,870 --> 01:35:21,199
people did the hard work and they're

2579
01:35:25,750 --> 01:35:22,880
continuing to do the hard work

2580
01:35:28,550 --> 01:35:25,760
and you know people say this is condom

2581
01:35:30,629 --> 01:35:28,560
2.0 and then lou jumps in and says well

2582
01:35:32,390 --> 01:35:30,639
not really because now we have we didn't

2583
01:35:34,070 --> 01:35:32,400
have alex dietrich back then when condom

2584
01:35:35,990 --> 01:35:34,080
was put out we didn't have david fravor

2585
01:35:38,470 --> 01:35:36,000
we didn't have jim slate we didn't have

2586
01:35:40,390 --> 01:35:38,480
chris mellon we didn't have myself but

2587
01:35:42,149 --> 01:35:40,400
then austin brings up a great point well

2588
01:35:45,189 --> 01:35:42,159
we had all those types of people

2589
01:35:46,149 --> 01:35:45,199
back in 2001. 20 years ago i remember

2590
01:35:47,990 --> 01:35:46,159
watching it

2591
01:35:49,910 --> 01:35:48,000
trying to watch it on my crappy internet

2592
01:35:50,950 --> 01:35:49,920
connection the thing would not load up i

2593
01:35:54,070 --> 01:35:50,960
had to watch it later on

2594
01:35:55,430 --> 01:35:54,080
i'm like oh my god this is it 2001.

2595
01:35:58,070 --> 01:35:55,440
this is the breakthrough and then it's

2596
01:35:59,669 --> 01:35:58,080
like crash after a week of media

2597
01:36:02,390 --> 01:35:59,679
coverage which wasn't even that

2598
01:36:04,550 --> 01:36:02,400
thorough but now the media coverage is

2599
01:36:06,550 --> 01:36:04,560
non-stop so will it continue i mean that

2600
01:36:08,629 --> 01:36:06,560
remains to be seen so

2601
01:36:10,390 --> 01:36:08,639
joe do you think this pushes out lou

2602
01:36:12,870 --> 01:36:10,400
elizonda to run

2603
01:36:14,149 --> 01:36:12,880
for congress like he threatened so to

2604
01:36:17,350 --> 01:36:14,159
speak i hope it does

2605
01:36:18,229 --> 01:36:17,360
um but i mean i think it i mean i think

2606
01:36:21,270 --> 01:36:18,239
his expectations

2607
01:36:23,910 --> 01:36:21,280
definitely were much higher so i agree

2608
01:36:25,350 --> 01:36:23,920
i i really want to see what he has to

2609
01:36:26,550 --> 01:36:25,360
say about this i'm not sure i want to

2610
01:36:28,149 --> 01:36:26,560
see what he has to say i mean i don't

2611
01:36:29,830 --> 01:36:28,159
really want him to run for congress

2612
01:36:31,830 --> 01:36:29,840
because i love having him

2613
01:36:33,270 --> 01:36:31,840
being able to interact with us whenever

2614
01:36:34,790 --> 01:36:33,280
he wants to but

2615
01:36:36,229 --> 01:36:34,800
if that's what it takes to get done and

2616
01:36:37,030 --> 01:36:36,239
he's willing to do it and run for

2617
01:36:39,990 --> 01:36:37,040
whatever

2618
01:36:41,350 --> 01:36:40,000
run from wyoming where he is if that's

2619
01:36:42,790 --> 01:36:41,360
what it takes then

2620
01:36:45,189 --> 01:36:42,800
you know i'd obviously support whatever

2621
01:36:47,350 --> 01:36:45,199
i could i'd support his campaign 100

2622
01:36:48,790 --> 01:36:47,360
i'm sure all of us would i think so i

2623
01:36:51,189 --> 01:36:48,800
think you know i think not just

2624
01:36:52,470 --> 01:36:51,199
i'll say this a lot of people outside of

2625
01:36:55,669 --> 01:36:52,480
the ufo community

2626
01:36:57,830 --> 01:36:55,679
and i could not myself too like

2627
01:36:59,109 --> 01:36:57,840
would because you know it's it's just

2628
01:37:01,830 --> 01:36:59,119
there's pilots

2629
01:37:02,149 --> 01:37:01,840
there's people liking government um like

2630
01:37:03,910 --> 01:37:02,159
not

2631
01:37:05,510 --> 01:37:03,920
just in government but there's really

2632
01:37:06,790 --> 01:37:05,520
like sophisticated people who are not

2633
01:37:09,350 --> 01:37:06,800
like part of this like

2634
01:37:11,350 --> 01:37:09,360
in the historical context who are now

2635
01:37:13,910 --> 01:37:11,360
part of it and supported because

2636
01:37:15,430 --> 01:37:13,920
the evidence is there like increasingly

2637
01:37:16,310 --> 01:37:15,440
and we want to get to the bottom of it

2638
01:37:17,750 --> 01:37:16,320
so i think

2639
01:37:19,990 --> 01:37:17,760
the conditions are right for someone

2640
01:37:20,390 --> 01:37:20,000
like him to to kind of go out there and

2641
01:37:22,310 --> 01:37:20,400
just

2642
01:37:24,229 --> 01:37:22,320
cause some disruption within congress

2643
01:37:26,870 --> 01:37:24,239
you know

2644
01:37:27,669 --> 01:37:26,880
yeah well hats off to you joe i gotta

2645
01:37:29,430 --> 01:37:27,679
bounce

2646
01:37:30,950 --> 01:37:29,440
yeah austin thank you so much for being

2647
01:37:32,790 --> 01:37:30,960
part of this

2648
01:37:34,870 --> 01:37:32,800
peace hey joe i'm also meeting but i

2649
01:37:36,229 --> 01:37:34,880
don't want to say thank you man this was

2650
01:37:38,629 --> 01:37:36,239
a historic day

2651
01:37:41,109 --> 01:37:38,639
and we got here thanks to the fourth of

2652
01:37:43,270 --> 01:37:41,119
many people just like you men so

2653
01:37:44,709 --> 01:37:43,280
let's keep up for let's keep praying for

2654
01:37:47,430 --> 01:37:44,719
more disclosure and

2655
01:37:48,950 --> 01:37:47,440
may everyone have a a nice evening see

2656
01:37:52,390 --> 01:37:48,960
you later yeah thank you thank you

2657
01:37:56,629 --> 01:37:52,400
say hello to everybody in mexico for us

2658
01:37:58,790 --> 01:37:56,639
adios all right i'm taking off tj

2659
01:37:59,750 --> 01:37:58,800
great uh keep up the good work um follow

2660
01:38:01,669 --> 01:37:59,760
you on twitter

2661
01:38:04,149 --> 01:38:01,679
appreciate the disruption you're doing

2662
01:38:04,629 --> 01:38:04,159
too and uh i'll catch you on uh twitter

2663
01:38:07,510 --> 01:38:04,639
okay

2664
01:38:09,109 --> 01:38:07,520
that was people right yeah paul yep and

2665
01:38:13,430 --> 01:38:09,119
paul you're in new mexico

2666
01:38:16,550 --> 01:38:15,270
joe i'm curious what do you think of

2667
01:38:17,109 --> 01:38:16,560
what's going to happen for the rest of

2668
01:38:19,189 --> 01:38:17,119
the summer

2669
01:38:20,950 --> 01:38:19,199
in terms of development whether that be

2670
01:38:24,310 --> 01:38:20,960
through corbell and nap or

2671
01:38:25,830 --> 01:38:24,320
through the usg the whole well

2672
01:38:27,510 --> 01:38:25,840
or lou actually with the international

2673
01:38:28,709 --> 01:38:27,520
thing yeah i don't know i don't know

2674
01:38:30,149 --> 01:38:28,719
about lou i know he's mentioned

2675
01:38:31,750 --> 01:38:30,159
international and corbell has taught

2676
01:38:34,229 --> 01:38:31,760
spoken about he has more

2677
01:38:35,430 --> 01:38:34,239
um but something to look forward to at

2678
01:38:38,470 --> 01:38:35,440
the end of july is

2679
01:38:38,709 --> 01:38:38,480
ross uh ross culthart's book which i

2680
01:38:41,189 --> 01:38:38,719
think

2681
01:38:42,390 --> 01:38:41,199
underestimating you know they saw his

2682
01:38:44,149 --> 01:38:42,400
documentary but the book is

2683
01:38:46,229 --> 01:38:44,159
the book is not the documentary in book

2684
01:38:48,790 --> 01:38:46,239
form the book is a lot more thorough

2685
01:38:49,910 --> 01:38:48,800
um so there could be some surprises

2686
01:38:52,550 --> 01:38:49,920
there

2687
01:38:53,750 --> 01:38:52,560
um as far as now where where do we go as

2688
01:38:55,350 --> 01:38:53,760
far as

2689
01:38:56,870 --> 01:38:55,360
how the government's gonna react to this

2690
01:38:57,990 --> 01:38:56,880
or how the senate is gonna react if

2691
01:39:00,310 --> 01:38:58,000
they're going to you know comment

2692
01:39:02,149 --> 01:39:00,320
more thoroughly you know i would like to

2693
01:39:02,550 --> 01:39:02,159
see you know rubio and some other people

2694
01:39:04,550 --> 01:39:02,560
ask

2695
01:39:05,669 --> 01:39:04,560
tops questions first off i'd like to i'd

2696
01:39:08,149 --> 01:39:05,679
like somebody to ask

2697
01:39:08,950 --> 01:39:08,159
you know senator rubio we've heard that

2698
01:39:11,030 --> 01:39:08,960
you were told

2699
01:39:12,550 --> 01:39:11,040
some of these are off world vehicles is

2700
01:39:15,109 --> 01:39:12,560
that accurate information

2701
01:39:16,390 --> 01:39:15,119
you know and unfortunately that was he

2702
01:39:17,510 --> 01:39:16,400
could say you know all of that's

2703
01:39:19,350 --> 01:39:17,520
classified um

2704
01:39:20,550 --> 01:39:19,360
but i honestly do not know where we go

2705
01:39:23,910 --> 01:39:20,560
from here i think

2706
01:39:24,390 --> 01:39:23,920
it's gonna you know supposedly who was

2707
01:39:25,830 --> 01:39:24,400
it oh

2708
01:39:27,510 --> 01:39:25,840
danny sheehan there was a private event

2709
01:39:29,030 --> 01:39:27,520
somebody sent me a video and

2710
01:39:31,189 --> 01:39:29,040
you guys saw this on twitter you know

2711
01:39:34,149 --> 01:39:31,199
luella zondo is booked for two more

2712
01:39:36,310 --> 01:39:34,159
two more appearances on 60 minutes and

2713
01:39:37,350 --> 01:39:36,320
60 minutes is why we're here right now a

2714
01:39:39,910 --> 01:39:37,360
big reason why

2715
01:39:41,270 --> 01:39:39,920
the past month or so that everything has

2716
01:39:42,870 --> 01:39:41,280
just skyrocketed

2717
01:39:44,149 --> 01:39:42,880
because people see 60 minutes and it's

2718
01:39:44,709 --> 01:39:44,159
like just like the new york times they

2719
01:39:47,109 --> 01:39:44,719
say

2720
01:39:48,229 --> 01:39:47,119
well now it's okay to cover this and a

2721
01:39:49,750 --> 01:39:48,239
lot of the people are covering it

2722
01:39:51,830 --> 01:39:49,760
covering it because they know it's

2723
01:39:53,109 --> 01:39:51,840
it's clicks a lot of the media a lot of

2724
01:39:54,310 --> 01:39:53,119
the online newspapers

2725
01:39:55,270 --> 01:39:54,320
i don't think they really have an

2726
01:39:56,310 --> 01:39:55,280
interest in it i mean i don't know if

2727
01:40:00,390 --> 01:39:56,320
you saw the new york times

2728
01:40:02,870 --> 01:40:00,400
article yesterday um julian barnes i

2729
01:40:05,350 --> 01:40:02,880
think his name is it was horrible i mean

2730
01:40:06,790 --> 01:40:05,360
they literally have no journalism on

2731
01:40:08,790 --> 01:40:06,800
this topic it's it's

2732
01:40:10,390 --> 01:40:08,800
you could you could google better

2733
01:40:12,310 --> 01:40:10,400
journalism than those people

2734
01:40:13,750 --> 01:40:12,320
it's it's kind of amazing there's not a

2735
01:40:15,270 --> 01:40:13,760
lot you have leslie kane you have ralph

2736
01:40:16,950 --> 01:40:15,280
blumenthal you have george knapp

2737
01:40:19,030 --> 01:40:16,960
um you have jeremy corbell doing work

2738
01:40:21,590 --> 01:40:19,040
and you have you know ross caldheart

2739
01:40:23,430 --> 01:40:21,600
um it's not a lot you would think they

2740
01:40:25,910 --> 01:40:23,440
would realize this is the story of

2741
01:40:26,870 --> 01:40:25,920
the you know of the millennium so it's

2742
01:40:30,310 --> 01:40:26,880
like there's

2743
01:40:32,310 --> 01:40:30,320
there are there are what's the award

2744
01:40:34,149 --> 01:40:32,320
there are pulitzer prize awards waiting

2745
01:40:35,109 --> 01:40:34,159
for somebody to sink their teeth into

2746
01:40:36,310 --> 01:40:35,119
this and to see

2747
01:40:38,149 --> 01:40:36,320
that article in the new york times

2748
01:40:39,830 --> 01:40:38,159
yesterday it was so dismissive

2749
01:40:41,510 --> 01:40:39,840
it's like you get the great article from

2750
01:40:42,790 --> 01:40:41,520
leslie keane and blumenthal and helene

2751
01:40:44,070 --> 01:40:42,800
cooper and then you get something

2752
01:40:45,990 --> 01:40:44,080
yesterday that was

2753
01:40:47,510 --> 01:40:46,000
it was and somebody privately told me

2754
01:40:47,910 --> 01:40:47,520
you're dead on it's it's horrible it

2755
01:40:49,430 --> 01:40:47,920
almost

2756
01:40:50,790 --> 01:40:49,440
and i didn't want to get conspiratorial

2757
01:40:51,910 --> 01:40:50,800
but it sounds it looked like it was a

2758
01:40:53,990 --> 01:40:51,920
hit piece

2759
01:40:55,590 --> 01:40:54,000
and what happens is it's not really a

2760
01:40:57,270 --> 01:40:55,600
head piece like you know people bring a

2761
01:40:59,030 --> 01:40:57,280
project mockingbird and the government's

2762
01:41:00,950 --> 01:40:59,040
working through the media it's more

2763
01:41:02,390 --> 01:41:00,960
simple where it's these people have

2764
01:41:03,830 --> 01:41:02,400
sources at the newspapers they have

2765
01:41:05,109 --> 01:41:03,840
sources within the defense industry and

2766
01:41:06,709 --> 01:41:05,119
they don't want to piss them off

2767
01:41:08,149 --> 01:41:06,719
and those folks are telling them listen

2768
01:41:09,669 --> 01:41:08,159
there's nothing to roswell

2769
01:41:12,070 --> 01:41:09,679
you know there's really nothing to this

2770
01:41:15,270 --> 01:41:12,080
and that's what they report so

2771
01:41:18,390 --> 01:41:15,280
i don't know you know it's i wanted to

2772
01:41:19,830 --> 01:41:18,400
uh get your opinion about if you if you

2773
01:41:22,709 --> 01:41:19,840
if you know anything about this

2774
01:41:23,830 --> 01:41:22,719
java lays material science stuff because

2775
01:41:25,990 --> 01:41:23,840
i'm interested in the

2776
01:41:27,669 --> 01:41:26,000
scientific community a little bit more

2777
01:41:29,750 --> 01:41:27,679
and then i i heard

2778
01:41:31,990 --> 01:41:29,760
that jacques ballet has some materials

2779
01:41:35,270 --> 01:41:32,000
that's going through peer review

2780
01:41:36,390 --> 01:41:35,280
um do you have any timeline on that any

2781
01:41:38,950 --> 01:41:36,400
information about

2782
01:41:40,629 --> 01:41:38,960
that or just just any kind of nipples

2783
01:41:41,350 --> 01:41:40,639
just just through the grapevine on

2784
01:41:44,310 --> 01:41:41,360
twitter that

2785
01:41:45,350 --> 01:41:44,320
that nolan gary nolan from stanford and

2786
01:41:48,310 --> 01:41:45,360
jacques valet have

2787
01:41:49,830 --> 01:41:48,320
their paper has i believe been approved

2788
01:41:51,189 --> 01:41:49,840
i believe it made it through all the

2789
01:41:52,070 --> 01:41:51,199
peer review and they're waiting

2790
01:41:53,510 --> 01:41:52,080
publishing and that's

2791
01:41:55,590 --> 01:41:53,520
that's going to be a big deal too oh

2792
01:41:57,669 --> 01:41:55,600
really oh really that's

2793
01:41:58,950 --> 01:41:57,679
that's impressive so you went through

2794
01:42:01,189 --> 01:41:58,960
you went through

2795
01:42:02,790 --> 01:42:01,199
allegedly it went through i know they

2796
01:42:03,590 --> 01:42:02,800
were doing final touches a few months

2797
01:42:05,590 --> 01:42:03,600
ago and

2798
01:42:07,990 --> 01:42:05,600
and making you know any changes that

2799
01:42:10,229 --> 01:42:08,000
their the peer folks were requesting

2800
01:42:11,030 --> 01:42:10,239
um but then i heard that it's now we're

2801
01:42:13,590 --> 01:42:11,040
just waiting

2802
01:42:14,870 --> 01:42:13,600
so that's a big deal yeah in my opinion

2803
01:42:17,510 --> 01:42:14,880
that's gonna be

2804
01:42:19,030 --> 01:42:17,520
literally the catalyst at least for

2805
01:42:22,870 --> 01:42:19,040
scientists because

2806
01:42:25,830 --> 01:42:22,880
when you have a peer-reviewed study

2807
01:42:26,470 --> 01:42:25,840
in journal nature by scientists from

2808
01:42:28,790 --> 01:42:26,480
harvard

2809
01:42:30,790 --> 01:42:28,800
that's peer reviewed by 20 different

2810
01:42:32,790 --> 01:42:30,800
material scientists that says

2811
01:42:34,709 --> 01:42:32,800
you cannot make this material on earth

2812
01:42:37,590 --> 01:42:34,719
and even if you did

2813
01:42:38,550 --> 01:42:37,600
it's it's near impossible that's gonna

2814
01:42:40,310 --> 01:42:38,560
change a lot of

2815
01:42:41,990 --> 01:42:40,320
scientists mind because scientists

2816
01:42:43,510 --> 01:42:42,000
they're you know they're extremely

2817
01:42:45,510 --> 01:42:43,520
arrogant i'm just gonna say it a lot of

2818
01:42:45,830 --> 01:42:45,520
my friends they're just arrogant they're

2819
01:42:47,590 --> 01:42:45,840
just

2820
01:42:48,950 --> 01:42:47,600
you know they they believe in what they

2821
01:42:50,790 --> 01:42:48,960
believe in but

2822
01:42:52,550 --> 01:42:50,800
they can they can definitely be

2823
01:42:55,590 --> 01:42:52,560
convinced especially through

2824
01:42:59,109 --> 01:42:55,600
peer-reviewed study in nature journal

2825
01:43:03,189 --> 01:43:01,109
yeah i've wondered how much i guess it

2826
01:43:04,470 --> 01:43:03,199
depends on exactly i don't know anything

2827
01:43:06,709 --> 01:43:04,480
about the materials that

2828
01:43:08,229 --> 01:43:06,719
they had analyzed um and what the

2829
01:43:09,430 --> 01:43:08,239
conclusions gonna be you know how

2830
01:43:11,590 --> 01:43:09,440
scientists will be like you just said

2831
01:43:13,430 --> 01:43:11,600
they'll they'll find any way

2832
01:43:16,149 --> 01:43:13,440
to dismiss the finding that's why i was

2833
01:43:17,990 --> 01:43:16,159
so and i was naive about it last year i

2834
01:43:20,550 --> 01:43:18,000
i was hoping we'd somehow get

2835
01:43:21,350 --> 01:43:20,560
a look at that alleged intact craft

2836
01:43:23,590 --> 01:43:21,360
because

2837
01:43:24,870 --> 01:43:23,600
the difference between materials which

2838
01:43:27,189 --> 01:43:24,880
you know a superior

2839
01:43:29,270 --> 01:43:27,199
peer-reviewed report or peer-reviewed

2840
01:43:32,310 --> 01:43:29,280
paper in a respectable scientific

2841
01:43:34,310 --> 01:43:32,320
journal is amazing but one day

2842
01:43:36,470 --> 01:43:34,320
one day hopefully in our lifetimes maybe

2843
01:43:36,870 --> 01:43:36,480
your lifetime maybe i won't be here for

2844
01:43:40,229 --> 01:43:36,880
it

2845
01:43:42,470 --> 01:43:40,239
of the craft that we have

2846
01:43:43,910 --> 01:43:42,480
that is such an impact the impact of

2847
01:43:45,590 --> 01:43:43,920
something like that as opposed to a

2848
01:43:47,109 --> 01:43:45,600
scientific report and i'm not taking

2849
01:43:48,229 --> 01:43:47,119
anything away from a scientific report

2850
01:43:50,149 --> 01:43:48,239
but

2851
01:43:51,590 --> 01:43:50,159
you know i do believe we have a craft

2852
01:43:52,390 --> 01:43:51,600
you know that just changes everything

2853
01:43:53,910 --> 01:43:52,400
that goes from

2854
01:43:55,430 --> 01:43:53,920
lights in the sky and a craft that could

2855
01:43:55,750 --> 01:43:55,440
be some sort of weather phenomenon to

2856
01:43:57,990 --> 01:43:55,760
say

2857
01:43:59,590 --> 01:43:58,000
here it is and by the way we have bodies

2858
01:44:00,390 --> 01:43:59,600
here you know and i'm jumping the gun

2859
01:44:01,910 --> 01:44:00,400
but

2860
01:44:03,350 --> 01:44:01,920
something down the road that's that's

2861
01:44:04,310 --> 01:44:03,360
kind of what we need we talk about

2862
01:44:06,390 --> 01:44:04,320
sightings how

2863
01:44:07,669 --> 01:44:06,400
you know south america had sightings and

2864
01:44:07,990 --> 01:44:07,679
nothing against south america but i

2865
01:44:09,910 --> 01:44:08,000
think

2866
01:44:11,030 --> 01:44:09,920
whatever it is what if there's a if it's

2867
01:44:13,750 --> 01:44:11,040
a world cup event

2868
01:44:14,149 --> 01:44:13,760
it's got to be something seen by masses

2869
01:44:18,310 --> 01:44:14,159
it's

2870
01:44:21,109 --> 01:44:18,320
time i want to see a daytime sighting

2871
01:44:21,669 --> 01:44:21,119
of something huge a 2 000 feet in the

2872
01:44:23,510 --> 01:44:21,679
air

2873
01:44:25,189 --> 01:44:23,520
over the super bowl or over some event

2874
01:44:26,870 --> 01:44:25,199
where people you know maybe people are

2875
01:44:28,070 --> 01:44:26,880
watching the academy awards a billion

2876
01:44:28,709 --> 01:44:28,080
people across the world and all of a

2877
01:44:30,790 --> 01:44:28,719
sudden

2878
01:44:32,709 --> 01:44:30,800
above above the theater people say oh my

2879
01:44:34,790 --> 01:44:32,719
god look at that something like that

2880
01:44:36,310 --> 01:44:34,800
but they may not something undisputable

2881
01:44:37,830 --> 01:44:36,320
something indisputable

2882
01:44:39,270 --> 01:44:37,840
but they may there may be some sort of

2883
01:44:41,669 --> 01:44:39,280
non-interference you know prime

2884
01:44:42,870 --> 01:44:41,679
directive going on speculation which

2885
01:44:44,950 --> 01:44:42,880
then that's not going to happen it's

2886
01:44:47,750 --> 01:44:44,960
going to be up to us us

2887
01:44:49,189 --> 01:44:47,760
you know as a species to collectively

2888
01:44:50,390 --> 01:44:49,199
get to the point where if there is

2889
01:44:52,229 --> 01:44:50,400
somebody here we can ask

2890
01:44:54,470 --> 01:44:52,239
all right you guys we accept it show

2891
01:44:57,189 --> 01:44:54,480
yourselves you know i mean

2892
01:44:58,470 --> 01:44:57,199
to go into kind of theoretical land i

2893
01:45:00,070 --> 01:44:58,480
mean that kind of

2894
01:45:02,149 --> 01:45:00,080
tells me that they're extremely

2895
01:45:04,950 --> 01:45:02,159
intelligent in a way because

2896
01:45:05,910 --> 01:45:04,960
based upon reports from george knapp and

2897
01:45:08,870 --> 01:45:05,920
if he believed

2898
01:45:10,629 --> 01:45:08,880
george nav's reporting there were uh

2899
01:45:13,430 --> 01:45:10,639
uaps floating over

2900
01:45:15,990 --> 01:45:13,440
um nuclear nuclear bases and military

2901
01:45:17,590 --> 01:45:16,000
bases like brazing just right there

2902
01:45:19,350 --> 01:45:17,600
that means they're willing to show them

2903
01:45:21,030 --> 01:45:19,360
to select group of people

2904
01:45:22,470 --> 01:45:21,040
right i mean they know we're watching

2905
01:45:24,870 --> 01:45:22,480
them they know

2906
01:45:26,950 --> 01:45:24,880
they're they're showing themselves so

2907
01:45:28,229 --> 01:45:26,960
they i guess they don't want to show

2908
01:45:31,109 --> 01:45:28,239
themselves in a

2909
01:45:32,070 --> 01:45:31,119
extremely massive way to everybody that

2910
01:45:33,430 --> 01:45:32,080
would

2911
01:45:35,430 --> 01:45:33,440
i don't know why whatever they're

2912
01:45:36,470 --> 01:45:35,440
thinking they're they have reason to not

2913
01:45:38,149 --> 01:45:36,480
show us

2914
01:45:39,990 --> 01:45:38,159
massive like you're saying like in the

2915
01:45:41,350 --> 01:45:40,000
super bowl event or whatever because

2916
01:45:42,229 --> 01:45:41,360
they probably could do that if they

2917
01:45:44,070 --> 01:45:42,239
wanted to

2918
01:45:45,350 --> 01:45:44,080
like if they exist let's make an

2919
01:45:47,510 --> 01:45:45,360
assumption they exist

2920
01:45:48,550 --> 01:45:47,520
and they could do that then they could

2921
01:45:50,629 --> 01:45:48,560
but they are

2922
01:45:52,950 --> 01:45:50,639
doing it to the military bases so why

2923
01:45:55,910 --> 01:45:52,960
are they doing it to military bases

2924
01:45:56,950 --> 01:45:55,920
and not to the general public and that's

2925
01:45:58,950 --> 01:45:56,960
that's a real

2926
01:46:00,149 --> 01:45:58,960
just curious man and then somebody said

2927
01:46:01,669 --> 01:46:00,159
well they're just preparing the

2928
01:46:02,950 --> 01:46:01,679
battlefield for when they attack us they

2929
01:46:04,470 --> 01:46:02,960
just want to make sure that we're not

2930
01:46:06,149 --> 01:46:04,480
strong enough to overtake them and

2931
01:46:07,990 --> 01:46:06,159
you know i don't think that i don't say

2932
01:46:08,950 --> 01:46:08,000
that seriously but you can't take any

2933
01:46:10,229 --> 01:46:08,960
option off the table

2934
01:46:12,149 --> 01:46:10,239
since we don't know what we're dealing

2935
01:46:14,709 --> 01:46:12,159
with but owner

2936
01:46:15,270 --> 01:46:14,719
am i saying it right yeah jewel how are

2937
01:46:23,189 --> 01:46:15,280
you

2938
01:46:26,229 --> 01:46:23,199
well we knew that there was no

2939
01:46:29,430 --> 01:46:26,239
there was no mentioning to ets or

2940
01:46:31,750 --> 01:46:29,440
aliens or ex

2941
01:46:33,030 --> 01:46:31,760
ultra terrestrial extraterrestrial super

2942
01:46:35,830 --> 01:46:33,040
terrestrial beings

2943
01:46:38,070 --> 01:46:35,840
but um i think we need to know what's

2944
01:46:41,830 --> 01:46:38,080
going to be in the

2945
01:46:44,229 --> 01:46:41,840
classified annex so that might as

2946
01:46:46,470 --> 01:46:44,239
remember like in laughlin uh dennis

2947
01:46:49,750 --> 01:46:46,480
sheehan was pretty optimistic about

2948
01:46:50,870 --> 01:46:49,760
the uh classified annex that is going to

2949
01:46:53,270 --> 01:46:50,880
have the

2950
01:46:55,590 --> 01:46:53,280
mentioning of maybe these uaps from

2951
01:46:58,149 --> 01:46:55,600
extraterrestrial or et origins

2952
01:46:59,510 --> 01:46:58,159
or out of this world they might mention

2953
01:47:02,870 --> 01:46:59,520
over there but

2954
01:47:06,790 --> 01:47:02,880
uh i mean i just saw what i

2955
01:47:11,109 --> 01:47:09,510
the language is of course extremely

2956
01:47:14,550 --> 01:47:11,119
extremely careful

2957
01:47:17,750 --> 01:47:14,560
and um okay we don't know

2958
01:47:21,270 --> 01:47:17,760
what they are but no

2959
01:47:24,950 --> 01:47:21,280
mentioning about variables or

2960
01:47:27,270 --> 01:47:24,960
what could be the uh origins of these

2961
01:47:29,030 --> 01:47:27,280
uaps it's just saying that

2962
01:47:32,070 --> 01:47:29,040
this we don't we just don't know that

2963
01:47:34,870 --> 01:47:32,080
that's it what did you expect

2964
01:47:37,109 --> 01:47:34,880
i i was expecting something like this

2965
01:47:40,149 --> 01:47:37,119
actually i wasn't expecting any

2966
01:47:43,270 --> 01:47:40,159
e.t phenomenon in the report or

2967
01:47:45,669 --> 01:47:43,280
out of the world phenomenon or like it's

2968
01:47:48,950 --> 01:47:45,679
completely russian or

2969
01:47:52,790 --> 01:47:48,960
chinese or something i just i just got

2970
01:47:56,550 --> 01:47:55,030
i mean let's see what's going to happen

2971
01:48:02,149 --> 01:47:56,560
but like um

2972
01:48:05,750 --> 01:48:04,310
by the end of the day i will see it i

2973
01:48:06,870 --> 01:48:05,760
will go through it again and just pick

2974
01:48:08,070 --> 01:48:06,880
out the parts that

2975
01:48:09,669 --> 01:48:08,080
stuck out there's some really

2976
01:48:11,669 --> 01:48:09,679
interesting parts of that but yeah the

2977
01:48:13,510 --> 01:48:11,679
the the annex

2978
01:48:15,109 --> 01:48:13,520
rubio said as everything else in

2979
01:48:16,470 --> 01:48:15,119
washington it will leak

2980
01:48:18,950 --> 01:48:16,480
you know what was in the classified

2981
01:48:20,709 --> 01:48:18,960
portion so let's see what let's see what

2982
01:48:22,870 --> 01:48:20,719
they got to see i'm disappointed that we

2983
01:48:23,910 --> 01:48:22,880
didn't have any specifics on any cases

2984
01:48:25,270 --> 01:48:23,920
i'm like

2985
01:48:27,030 --> 01:48:25,280
they couldn't i know they didn't even

2986
01:48:27,350 --> 01:48:27,040
they didn't even mention the nimitz case

2987
01:48:29,750 --> 01:48:27,360
and

2988
01:48:31,830 --> 01:48:29,760
they could yeah they could share more

2989
01:48:33,510 --> 01:48:31,840
information about nimitz and gimbal and

2990
01:48:35,270 --> 01:48:33,520
goldfest and whatever other without

2991
01:48:36,790 --> 01:48:35,280
giving away sources and methods it's

2992
01:48:38,310 --> 01:48:36,800
written down yeah i mean it's a it's

2993
01:48:39,990 --> 01:48:38,320
literally already released and they

2994
01:48:41,669 --> 01:48:40,000
didn't even do that and that tells me

2995
01:48:42,470 --> 01:48:41,679
they're just not really to release any

2996
01:48:46,470 --> 01:48:42,480
data

2997
01:48:49,189 --> 01:48:46,480
you're not even willing to

2998
01:48:51,109 --> 01:48:49,199
re like provide a better resolution of

2999
01:48:53,350 --> 01:48:51,119
it because they definitely do have it

3000
01:48:54,870 --> 01:48:53,360
i mean it's it's just it's just

3001
01:48:56,629 --> 01:48:54,880
disingenuous to me this

3002
01:48:58,709 --> 01:48:56,639
that's all this government this

3003
01:49:00,070 --> 01:48:58,719
information not even this information

3004
01:49:02,229 --> 01:49:00,080
they're just not telling us

3005
01:49:03,430 --> 01:49:02,239
they're just we know they have it a lot

3006
01:49:05,109 --> 01:49:03,440
of people know they have it that's

3007
01:49:07,109 --> 01:49:05,119
what's so frustrating

3008
01:49:08,390 --> 01:49:07,119
in ufo communities right because a lot

3009
01:49:11,270 --> 01:49:08,400
of people have

3010
01:49:12,709 --> 01:49:11,280
actually seen it they hear people about

3011
01:49:15,750 --> 01:49:12,719
it they know people who

3012
01:49:18,790 --> 01:49:15,760
supposedly working uh

3013
01:49:20,709 --> 01:49:18,800
something about it it and we just can't

3014
01:49:22,629 --> 01:49:20,719
nobody nobody just accepts it and that

3015
01:49:24,390 --> 01:49:22,639
just makes it extremely frustrating

3016
01:49:26,070 --> 01:49:24,400
and not just lack of data they could

3017
01:49:26,950 --> 01:49:26,080
have put in they could have put

3018
01:49:28,709 --> 01:49:26,960
information

3019
01:49:31,270 --> 01:49:28,719
in the report about nimitz it didn't

3020
01:49:32,790 --> 01:49:31,280
have to be radar or video or fleer

3021
01:49:34,629 --> 01:49:32,800
they could just put they could have put

3022
01:49:36,310 --> 01:49:34,639
specifics which they learned about

3023
01:49:38,629 --> 01:49:36,320
what those craft were doing during that

3024
01:49:40,629 --> 01:49:38,639
week-long event but there was nothing

3025
01:49:42,149 --> 01:49:40,639
so that's that's that's what i'm saying

3026
01:49:44,870 --> 01:49:42,159
everything is mentioned

3027
01:49:46,550 --> 01:49:44,880
in a very abstract way that we don't

3028
01:49:49,669 --> 01:49:46,560
know what they are and like

3029
01:49:50,950 --> 01:49:49,679
we have some cases air forces intervened

3030
01:49:53,270 --> 01:49:50,960
and we have military

3031
01:49:55,990 --> 01:49:53,280
counters but we don't know what they are

3032
01:49:58,229 --> 01:49:56,000
and we need further research that's what

3033
01:49:59,750 --> 01:49:58,239
everything is so abstract like nothing

3034
01:50:03,270 --> 01:49:59,760
is

3035
01:50:05,669 --> 01:50:03,280
like pronounced in the report and that's

3036
01:50:06,950 --> 01:50:05,679
but maybe danny is going to make an

3037
01:50:08,629 --> 01:50:06,960
announcement or

3038
01:50:10,070 --> 01:50:08,639
like let's see what's going to happen

3039
01:50:11,030 --> 01:50:10,080
i'm not expecting anything from

3040
01:50:15,109 --> 01:50:11,040
alexander but

3041
01:50:16,709 --> 01:50:15,119
maybe then she might give us something

3042
01:50:18,950 --> 01:50:16,719
i will tell you something that danny saw

3043
01:50:19,830 --> 01:50:18,960
which i wanted to say for my blog but

3044
01:50:22,709 --> 01:50:19,840
i'll and

3045
01:50:23,189 --> 01:50:22,719
you might have heard him say it um when

3046
01:50:25,109 --> 01:50:23,199
i was

3047
01:50:27,030 --> 01:50:25,119
talking with sheen after his lecture at

3048
01:50:30,550 --> 01:50:27,040
ufo megacon last week

3049
01:50:31,430 --> 01:50:30,560
he was taking q a and i don't know it

3050
01:50:33,109 --> 01:50:31,440
was alan

3051
01:50:34,709 --> 01:50:33,119
steinfeld was there and somehow danny

3052
01:50:38,149 --> 01:50:34,719
said i've seen

3053
01:50:38,790 --> 01:50:38,159
pictures from an f-18 50 feet off the

3054
01:50:41,270 --> 01:50:38,800
wing

3055
01:50:43,669 --> 01:50:41,280
of a tic tac so they have that kind of

3056
01:50:45,270 --> 01:50:43,679
stuff they have that kind of data

3057
01:50:46,950 --> 01:50:45,280
why they couldn't show us that picture

3058
01:50:47,750 --> 01:50:46,960
because that doesn't give away sources

3059
01:50:49,270 --> 01:50:47,760
and methods

3060
01:50:51,510 --> 01:50:49,280
somebody took a picture with their with

3061
01:50:53,430 --> 01:50:51,520
their iphone of a tic tac 50 feet

3062
01:50:55,270 --> 01:50:53,440
and he's seen the picture so so i'm like

3063
01:50:58,070 --> 01:50:55,280
was did you see that from lou he's like

3064
01:50:58,400 --> 01:50:58,080
no i go your own sources he's like yes

3065
01:50:59,830 --> 01:50:58,410
um

3066
01:51:01,430 --> 01:50:59,840
[Music]

3067
01:51:02,950 --> 01:51:01,440
so yeah and danny's going to be on

3068
01:51:03,830 --> 01:51:02,960
another panel tonight so i don't know i

3069
01:51:06,149 --> 01:51:03,840
don't know how

3070
01:51:08,229 --> 01:51:06,159
i i'm very curious to see how he reacts

3071
01:51:11,189 --> 01:51:08,239
and i i guess i'll have another

3072
01:51:13,669 --> 01:51:11,199
interview something to transcribe my dan

3073
01:51:15,350 --> 01:51:13,679
my sheehan transcription is like

3074
01:51:16,790 --> 01:51:15,360
it's like 28 000 words and it's going to

3075
01:51:18,229 --> 01:51:16,800
be a lot more active tonight

3076
01:51:19,669 --> 01:51:18,239
because i'm really curious to hear what

3077
01:51:20,950 --> 01:51:19,679
he has to say because i don't think he's

3078
01:51:23,910 --> 01:51:20,960
going to be happy with this

3079
01:51:26,229 --> 01:51:23,920
joe but there's also like i think 70

3080
01:51:27,990 --> 01:51:26,239
something pages of this annex so

3081
01:51:29,510 --> 01:51:28,000
probably they're kind of busy to reading

3082
01:51:32,550 --> 01:51:29,520
it too and also

3083
01:51:34,870 --> 01:51:32,560
like um understanding it making a

3084
01:51:36,709 --> 01:51:34,880
summary and creating a plan based on

3085
01:51:38,070 --> 01:51:36,719
that also takes some time

3086
01:51:40,709 --> 01:51:38,080
are you going to attend to grant

3087
01:51:42,070 --> 01:51:40,719
cameron's podcast

3088
01:51:44,550 --> 01:51:42,080
tonight you're talking about tonight we

3089
01:51:48,709 --> 01:51:44,560
have 7 p.m yeah so yeah that's

3090
01:51:50,709 --> 01:51:48,719
that's where i think yeah sheen will be

3091
01:51:53,669 --> 01:51:50,719
part of that

3092
01:51:54,950 --> 01:51:53,679
so yes yes i will listen and hopefully

3093
01:51:57,510 --> 01:51:54,960
if he says something really good it's

3094
01:51:58,629 --> 01:51:57,520
not too much

3095
01:52:02,790 --> 01:51:58,639
because i have to go through i still

3096
01:52:04,709 --> 01:52:02,800
have to finish this transcript um

3097
01:52:07,189 --> 01:52:04,719
i don't think i don't think that she has

3098
01:52:09,589 --> 01:52:07,199
access to the classified report i think

3099
01:52:10,709 --> 01:52:09,599
some of the defense reporters will be

3100
01:52:13,430 --> 01:52:10,719
maybe shown it

3101
01:52:15,270 --> 01:52:13,440
or told what's inside of it like the new

3102
01:52:16,709 --> 01:52:15,280
york times article was based on sources

3103
01:52:17,990 --> 01:52:16,719
who have who had seen it

3104
01:52:19,990 --> 01:52:18,000
but the report is i don't think the

3105
01:52:21,030 --> 01:52:20,000
reporters actually had seen it they were

3106
01:52:23,189 --> 01:52:21,040
told what was in it

3107
01:52:25,030 --> 01:52:23,199
it's funny because this kind of didn't

3108
01:52:29,030 --> 01:52:25,040
match what their article said

3109
01:52:30,149 --> 01:52:29,040
the article said they

3110
01:52:31,589 --> 01:52:30,159
what was it when they were talking about

3111
01:52:33,589 --> 01:52:31,599
our technology they said the vast

3112
01:52:35,910 --> 01:52:33,599
majority of these

3113
01:52:37,669 --> 01:52:35,920
are not ours um but in this actual

3114
01:52:39,589 --> 01:52:37,679
report it basically says

3115
01:52:41,030 --> 01:52:39,599
they found no evidence that it was ours

3116
01:52:42,790 --> 01:52:41,040
you know

3117
01:52:44,149 --> 01:52:42,800
and they oh and also that was not in the

3118
01:52:46,310 --> 01:52:44,159
new york times group

3119
01:52:47,910 --> 01:52:46,320
article saying that they kind of ruled

3120
01:52:50,149 --> 01:52:47,920
out foreign adversary that's

3121
01:52:51,109 --> 01:52:50,159
for me that's the biggest takeaway we

3122
01:52:53,589 --> 01:52:51,119
can't say it enough

3123
01:52:56,149 --> 01:52:53,599
no data no data that's foreign probably

3124
01:52:59,189 --> 01:52:56,159
lack a single explanation

3125
01:53:01,350 --> 01:52:59,199
yeah and for them for us that means

3126
01:53:02,390 --> 01:53:01,360
maybe some of them are reptilian some of

3127
01:53:04,310 --> 01:53:02,400
them are greys

3128
01:53:05,510 --> 01:53:04,320
but for them it's like well maybe some

3129
01:53:08,149 --> 01:53:05,520
of them are drones

3130
01:53:09,430 --> 01:53:08,159
maybe some of them are other funny

3131
01:53:11,350 --> 01:53:09,440
different different views

3132
01:53:12,790 --> 01:53:11,360
i mean at least declaring that it's not

3133
01:53:14,310 --> 01:53:12,800
ours it's also a step

3134
01:53:16,470 --> 01:53:14,320
it's not our drawings it's not

3135
01:53:18,390 --> 01:53:16,480
technology it's a stuff

3136
01:53:20,550 --> 01:53:18,400
and as much as we all get excited and

3137
01:53:21,510 --> 01:53:20,560
luch louis hammered at home for three

3138
01:53:23,910 --> 01:53:21,520
years he's like

3139
01:53:25,750 --> 01:53:23,920
it's gonna take a while i mean we all

3140
01:53:28,390 --> 01:53:25,760
get excited i've gotten excited i've

3141
01:53:30,709 --> 01:53:28,400
gotten oh i've gone overboard i said

3142
01:53:32,709 --> 01:53:30,719
they denied that he was cheering the uap

3143
01:53:33,350 --> 01:53:32,719
i'm here reed has to step in that he was

3144
01:53:37,270 --> 01:53:33,360
the

3145
01:53:38,790 --> 01:53:37,280
it's those people it's a small group of

3146
01:53:40,629 --> 01:53:38,800
people that have been doing it for a

3147
01:53:41,990 --> 01:53:40,639
long time they'll do anything they can

3148
01:53:43,669 --> 01:53:42,000
to kill a program

3149
01:53:45,030 --> 01:53:43,679
i spoke to somebody on the inside and

3150
01:53:46,870 --> 01:53:45,040
they're like those people will do

3151
01:53:48,629 --> 01:53:46,880
anything to kill a budget they're so

3152
01:53:50,550 --> 01:53:48,639
desperate to keep us from studying it

3153
01:53:52,229 --> 01:53:50,560
because of their religious beliefs it's

3154
01:53:53,350 --> 01:53:52,239
a big part of that i'm sorry for people

3155
01:53:54,790 --> 01:53:53,360
who are religious but

3156
01:53:56,390 --> 01:53:54,800
that's a big part of why we're not

3157
01:53:57,910 --> 01:53:56,400
getting to see a lot of this stuff and

3158
01:53:59,589 --> 01:53:57,920
why these programs die

3159
01:54:00,870 --> 01:53:59,599
you know those people i don't know how

3160
01:54:02,229 --> 01:54:00,880
much power they had over the senate

3161
01:54:03,990 --> 01:54:02,239
select intelligence committee

3162
01:54:05,830 --> 01:54:04,000
but as far as telling them you cannot do

3163
01:54:06,790 --> 01:54:05,840
this i'm not sure exactly who those

3164
01:54:09,510 --> 01:54:06,800
people are

3165
01:54:10,310 --> 01:54:09,520
lou i think lou names and i don't think

3166
01:54:12,070 --> 01:54:10,320
every one of them

3167
01:54:13,589 --> 01:54:12,080
it's based on religious grounds i think

3168
01:54:16,390 --> 01:54:13,599
but a big part of it is

3169
01:54:17,990 --> 01:54:16,400
and lou has you know he says in the in

3170
01:54:19,669 --> 01:54:18,000
inspector general

3171
01:54:21,109 --> 01:54:19,679
inquiry that they've made he does name

3172
01:54:23,589 --> 01:54:21,119
them you know

3173
01:54:25,109 --> 01:54:23,599
yeah yeah you know i do want to know who

3174
01:54:29,510 --> 01:54:25,119
those people are

3175
01:54:31,910 --> 01:54:29,520
yeah yeah i mean um

3176
01:54:32,950 --> 01:54:31,920
this is i think this is the same tactic

3177
01:54:37,589 --> 01:54:32,960
that we've seen

3178
01:54:40,229 --> 01:54:37,599
over the years leak some information

3179
01:54:41,189 --> 01:54:40,239
create a disinformation campaign the

3180
01:54:43,270 --> 01:54:41,199
information is

3181
01:54:44,550 --> 01:54:43,280
the reality is there but we don't know

3182
01:54:47,830 --> 01:54:44,560
what to believe in

3183
01:54:49,990 --> 01:54:47,840
so even the data we have is correct

3184
01:54:51,109 --> 01:54:50,000
we're in between is it correct or not

3185
01:54:52,629 --> 01:54:51,119
that this is

3186
01:54:54,629 --> 01:54:52,639
exactly what they're doing here right

3187
01:54:55,350 --> 01:54:54,639
now too then you're just staying in

3188
01:54:59,030 --> 01:54:55,360
between

3189
01:55:03,430 --> 01:54:59,040
okay and you don't know what to believe

3190
01:55:03,990 --> 01:55:03,440
or they're just denying their own head

3191
01:55:07,189 --> 01:55:04,000
of their

3192
01:55:08,709 --> 01:55:07,199
uap program program chair i mean what

3193
01:55:11,510 --> 01:55:08,719
can you expect

3194
01:55:12,229 --> 01:55:11,520
i think the government is just extremely

3195
01:55:14,950 --> 01:55:12,239
scared

3196
01:55:16,709 --> 01:55:14,960
i mean especially with this new cold war

3197
01:55:19,910 --> 01:55:16,719
rising with china

3198
01:55:21,350 --> 01:55:19,920
and um they just they because they knew

3199
01:55:23,589 --> 01:55:21,360
they haven't been

3200
01:55:26,070 --> 01:55:23,599
studying this legitimately for a while

3201
01:55:28,470 --> 01:55:26,080
so that now they're really scared that

3202
01:55:29,990 --> 01:55:28,480
china or russia might be ahead of them

3203
01:55:31,990 --> 01:55:30,000
in this technology right i mean

3204
01:55:33,109 --> 01:55:32,000
because we know that's that's why harry

3205
01:55:35,350 --> 01:55:33,119
reid started it

3206
01:55:37,510 --> 01:55:35,360
in the in that program like does not not

3207
01:55:39,830 --> 01:55:37,520
that they have this technology

3208
01:55:40,550 --> 01:55:39,840
but they're trying to study it just like

3209
01:55:42,470 --> 01:55:40,560
us you know we

3210
01:55:44,790 --> 01:55:42,480
they're trying to study it but they went

3211
01:55:46,390 --> 01:55:44,800
farther in that study of ufc

3212
01:55:47,669 --> 01:55:46,400
i think they knew that russia and china

3213
01:55:49,270 --> 01:55:47,679
they're also going through these

3214
01:55:50,149 --> 01:55:49,280
sightings and like they knew that they

3215
01:55:52,310 --> 01:55:50,159
were

3216
01:55:54,470 --> 01:55:52,320
chinese but like i understand in the 40s

3217
01:55:55,189 --> 01:55:54,480
like in 47 for example during truman

3218
01:55:58,070 --> 01:55:55,199
time

3219
01:55:59,830 --> 01:55:58,080
okay keeping it secret just after second

3220
01:56:01,350 --> 01:55:59,840
world war where like millions of people

3221
01:56:03,030 --> 01:56:01,360
now i understand that

3222
01:56:04,950 --> 01:56:03,040
i mean they killed the secretary of

3223
01:56:08,870 --> 01:56:04,960
defense for that

3224
01:56:10,790 --> 01:56:08,880
well maybe you can see these scratch

3225
01:56:12,629 --> 01:56:10,800
marks on the hospital window

3226
01:56:14,149 --> 01:56:12,639
i know i know maybe they may have killed

3227
01:56:16,470 --> 01:56:14,159
people they may have committed by i mean

3228
01:56:18,149 --> 01:56:16,480
lou has insinuate basically lou said

3229
01:56:20,390 --> 01:56:18,159
during his richard dolan interview

3230
01:56:21,910 --> 01:56:20,400
that his very close colleague

3231
01:56:23,430 --> 01:56:21,920
encountered these people

3232
01:56:24,629 --> 01:56:23,440
you know and there's rumors over the

3233
01:56:25,350 --> 01:56:24,639
years that they've you know been

3234
01:56:28,070 --> 01:56:25,360
involved in

3235
01:56:30,229 --> 01:56:28,080
you know intimidation he went as far as

3236
01:56:32,229 --> 01:56:30,239
intimidation so

3237
01:56:34,629 --> 01:56:32,239
yeah you know that may have gone on and

3238
01:56:35,510 --> 01:56:34,639
back then it was it's never acceptable

3239
01:56:37,430 --> 01:56:35,520
obviously

3240
01:56:39,189 --> 01:56:37,440
if forrest all was murdered that's not

3241
01:56:40,229 --> 01:56:39,199
except not it's never acceptable i don't

3242
01:56:43,109 --> 01:56:40,239
care what the secret is

3243
01:56:43,830 --> 01:56:43,119
you know just the last question before i

3244
01:56:47,109 --> 01:56:43,840
leave

3245
01:56:49,830 --> 01:56:47,119
what can uh people like us do to help in

3246
01:56:53,510 --> 01:56:49,840
the ufo community

3247
01:56:55,430 --> 01:56:53,520
you know a lot of i mean contact your

3248
01:56:57,589 --> 01:56:55,440
contact your representatives is great

3249
01:56:58,950 --> 01:56:57,599
but i don't think we're large enough to

3250
01:57:01,589 --> 01:56:58,960
make a difference yet

3251
01:57:02,950 --> 01:57:01,599
i mean and i i never i've never said

3252
01:57:05,669 --> 01:57:02,960
this because i know it's controversial

3253
01:57:07,669 --> 01:57:05,679
but the kind of energy we need

3254
01:57:08,950 --> 01:57:07,679
is what happened on january 6 with the

3255
01:57:10,550 --> 01:57:08,960
trump rally

3256
01:57:12,149 --> 01:57:10,560
that kind of energy not the kind of

3257
01:57:13,589 --> 01:57:12,159
violence i'm not talking about people

3258
01:57:14,950 --> 01:57:13,599
breaking into the capital but we need

3259
01:57:16,950 --> 01:57:14,960
that kind of crowd

3260
01:57:18,470 --> 01:57:16,960
that kind of energy we need people to be

3261
01:57:20,149 --> 01:57:18,480
pissed off to the point where like we

3262
01:57:21,589 --> 01:57:20,159
need this data you need to give us that

3263
01:57:23,750 --> 01:57:21,599
data and i'm not sure how

3264
01:57:25,510 --> 01:57:23,760
patient yeah we need the passion and

3265
01:57:27,510 --> 01:57:25,520
it's only passion in our community

3266
01:57:28,870 --> 01:57:27,520
it hasn't expanded there are people that

3267
01:57:29,589 --> 01:57:28,880
are interested in this you know they're

3268
01:57:32,470 --> 01:57:29,599
like

3269
01:57:33,750 --> 01:57:32,480
this is interesting you know oh that's

3270
01:57:35,109 --> 01:57:33,760
interesting but they're not passionate

3271
01:57:38,149 --> 01:57:35,119
like us like

3272
01:57:39,750 --> 01:57:38,159
we're obsessed by this and i i don't

3273
01:57:42,070 --> 01:57:39,760
know what it's going to take to get

3274
01:57:43,430 --> 01:57:42,080
a certain critical mass critical number

3275
01:57:44,310 --> 01:57:43,440
of people to get to that point where we

3276
01:57:45,109 --> 01:57:44,320
make a difference with our

3277
01:57:46,629 --> 01:57:45,119
representatives

3278
01:57:48,310 --> 01:57:46,639
i mean we see them speaking out but i'm

3279
01:57:49,669 --> 01:57:48,320
not sure if our representatives are

3280
01:57:50,310 --> 01:57:49,679
speaking out because they feel pressure

3281
01:57:52,470 --> 01:57:50,320
from us

3282
01:57:53,910 --> 01:57:52,480
or because they they realize it's a good

3283
01:57:55,830 --> 01:57:53,920
thing to talk about it makes them look

3284
01:57:58,870 --> 01:57:55,840
good right now in this climate

3285
01:58:00,149 --> 01:57:58,880
um what else can you do i mean just keep

3286
01:58:01,830 --> 01:58:00,159
i don't know share it with as many

3287
01:58:03,109 --> 01:58:01,840
people as you can i'll bring it up

3288
01:58:05,030 --> 01:58:03,119
whenever i can

3289
01:58:07,589 --> 01:58:05,040
and i'll keep it very basic for people

3290
01:58:09,109 --> 01:58:07,599
and now i can i can refer to 60 minutes

3291
01:58:10,550 --> 01:58:09,119
before it was the new york times

3292
01:58:12,149 --> 01:58:10,560
and those are two really big things that

3293
01:58:13,669 --> 01:58:12,159
i didn't have in the past i mean i would

3294
01:58:14,629 --> 01:58:13,679
still talk about it with strangers if i

3295
01:58:17,910 --> 01:58:14,639
could

3296
01:58:19,270 --> 01:58:17,920
um but we just have to get more people

3297
01:58:19,990 --> 01:58:19,280
interested and i think it's happening it

3298
01:58:21,669 --> 01:58:20,000
just it takes

3299
01:58:23,510 --> 01:58:21,679
it's going to take a while you know well

3300
01:58:26,709 --> 01:58:23,520
so we need more people like dennis

3301
01:58:28,709 --> 01:58:26,719
who can speak with their language yeah

3302
01:58:29,830 --> 01:58:28,719
thanks for the in thanks for the insight

3303
01:58:33,189 --> 01:58:29,840
man have a

3304
01:58:35,910 --> 01:58:33,199
have a nice rest of the stream thank you

3305
01:58:36,950 --> 01:58:35,920
yeah we're going to end this soon um but

3306
01:58:39,750 --> 01:58:36,960
she and also talk

3307
01:58:41,109 --> 01:58:39,760
she talks about one of the things what i

3308
01:58:41,990 --> 01:58:41,119
had never heard him talk about he talks

3309
01:58:43,750 --> 01:58:42,000
about

3310
01:58:45,189 --> 01:58:43,760
they taught when he was with john mack

3311
01:58:46,709 --> 01:58:45,199
they had an idea and she and said he

3312
01:58:50,310 --> 01:58:46,719
came up with the idea they taught

3313
01:58:52,550 --> 01:58:50,320
they said listen these beings we react

3314
01:58:54,390 --> 01:58:52,560
we don't really react well to them if if

3315
01:58:56,870 --> 01:58:54,400
during an abduction so they

3316
01:58:58,149 --> 01:58:56,880
they wind up sedating us and they put us

3317
01:59:00,390 --> 01:58:58,159
where we can't move and

3318
01:59:02,550 --> 01:59:00,400
people panic he goes we need to teach

3319
01:59:05,189 --> 01:59:02,560
these experiencers

3320
01:59:06,470 --> 01:59:05,199
holotrophic holotropic breathing which

3321
01:59:08,390 --> 01:59:06,480
was stanislav graf

3322
01:59:10,149 --> 01:59:08,400
something he came up with to keep them

3323
01:59:12,550 --> 01:59:10,159
calm so when they do have the encounter

3324
01:59:13,910 --> 01:59:12,560
they don't react crazy and he said one

3325
01:59:16,229 --> 01:59:13,920
of the persons in the group

3326
01:59:17,910 --> 01:59:16,239
did that and she was taken to see her

3327
01:59:18,310 --> 01:59:17,920
daughter you know he's insinuating that

3328
01:59:21,270 --> 01:59:18,320
it's

3329
01:59:23,270 --> 01:59:21,280
a hybrid so you know she and does talk

3330
01:59:24,790 --> 01:59:23,280
about stuff that's controversial too

3331
01:59:26,550 --> 01:59:24,800
but he knows he goes you got to know

3332
01:59:27,830 --> 01:59:26,560
your audience if you're in front of

3333
01:59:28,870 --> 01:59:27,840
somebody for the first time who's never

3334
01:59:30,470 --> 01:59:28,880
heard about this you're not going to

3335
01:59:31,750 --> 01:59:30,480
bring up the possibility of hybrids

3336
01:59:33,669 --> 01:59:31,760
you're going to talk about 60 minutes

3337
01:59:35,430 --> 01:59:33,679
passionate about the subject too and he

3338
01:59:37,109 --> 01:59:35,440
knows the literature pretty well oh he's

3339
01:59:38,390 --> 01:59:37,119
amazing he's just the best thing

3340
01:59:40,550 --> 01:59:38,400
i think he's the best thing you follow

3341
01:59:42,229 --> 01:59:40,560
and he's trying his best to unite

3342
01:59:43,750 --> 01:59:42,239
greer and elizondo and the people who

3343
01:59:46,310 --> 01:59:43,760
think this is a false flag

3344
01:59:48,390 --> 01:59:46,320
and during his interview he goes through

3345
01:59:49,990 --> 01:59:48,400
this long explanation of why he doesn't

3346
01:59:51,589 --> 01:59:50,000
believe this is a false flag

3347
01:59:53,510 --> 01:59:51,599
he says there's no evidence for that it

3348
01:59:55,589 --> 01:59:53,520
makes no sense if they want money

3349
01:59:57,750 --> 01:59:55,599
then there's so many other avenues they

3350
02:00:00,229 --> 01:59:57,760
could still use that thank you

3351
02:00:01,990 --> 02:00:00,239
and he goes but i do understand i'm

3352
02:00:03,589 --> 02:00:02,000
trying to get ahead of the possibility

3353
02:00:05,270 --> 02:00:03,599
that maybe in the future

3354
02:00:07,510 --> 02:00:05,280
there might be a false flag and that's

3355
02:00:09,589 --> 02:00:07,520
where he says so i understand that

3356
02:00:11,830 --> 02:00:09,599
good on them for at least being prepared

3357
02:00:13,109 --> 02:00:11,840
for the possibility he's doing his best

3358
02:00:15,109 --> 02:00:13,119
to try to mend

3359
02:00:17,669 --> 02:00:15,119
fences with elizondo and greer but it's

3360
02:00:18,070 --> 02:00:17,679
hard when you know greer calls elizondo

3361
02:00:34,149 --> 02:00:18,080
a

3362
02:00:35,830 --> 02:00:34,159
it come on

3363
02:00:37,669 --> 02:00:35,840
we could you've done some great stuff

3364
02:00:39,990 --> 02:00:37,679
just we also put

3365
02:00:41,270 --> 02:00:40,000
denishin under the bus too just for his

3366
02:00:43,510 --> 02:00:41,280
own sake that's not

3367
02:00:45,270 --> 02:00:43,520
that's not good i mean he's always

3368
02:00:47,589 --> 02:00:45,280
talking about oh we should always like

3369
02:00:49,750 --> 02:00:47,599
get rid of our egos for these beautiful

3370
02:00:50,229 --> 02:00:49,760
lucky beings who are visiting us and so

3371
02:00:52,870 --> 02:00:50,239
on

3372
02:00:54,229 --> 02:00:52,880
first start from yourself dream your

3373
02:00:56,629 --> 02:00:54,239
giant eagle

3374
02:00:58,070 --> 02:00:56,639
i know i know i agree maybe i don't know

3375
02:00:59,589 --> 02:00:58,080
if it'll happen but any thoughts any

3376
02:01:02,070 --> 02:00:59,599
final thoughts guys

3377
02:01:02,870 --> 02:01:02,080
final thoughts today something exciting

3378
02:01:04,790 --> 02:01:02,880
just happened

3379
02:01:06,709 --> 02:01:04,800
actually though what happened the dod

3380
02:01:08,790 --> 02:01:06,719
now requires all members

3381
02:01:10,310 --> 02:01:08,800
to report any uap activity within two

3382
02:01:11,990 --> 02:01:10,320
weeks of sighting and there's a new

3383
02:01:12,629 --> 02:01:12,000
memorandum that just came out that's

3384
02:01:15,669 --> 02:01:12,639
like

3385
02:01:17,589 --> 02:01:15,679
that's who is it the uh uh

3386
02:01:19,510 --> 02:01:17,599
i'll just i'll link it in the chat but

3387
02:01:23,189 --> 02:01:19,520
oh yeah i just saw it

3388
02:01:25,189 --> 02:01:23,199
it's from um

3389
02:01:26,390 --> 02:01:25,199
it's a memorandum from senior pentagon

3390
02:01:29,350 --> 02:01:26,400
leadership commanders

3391
02:01:30,709 --> 02:01:29,360
of the combatant commands defense agency

3392
02:01:32,629 --> 02:01:30,719
and dod field

3393
02:01:34,390 --> 02:01:32,639
activity directors and it's basically

3394
02:01:37,030 --> 02:01:34,400
from the uap task force directing it to

3395
02:01:38,709 --> 02:01:37,040
all forms of dod to to now

3396
02:01:40,070 --> 02:01:38,719
send their sightings into the uap task

3397
02:01:43,030 --> 02:01:40,080
force damn

3398
02:01:44,310 --> 02:01:43,040
that's good yeah that's a good thing

3399
02:01:44,870 --> 02:01:44,320
i'll have to find that thank you for

3400
02:01:48,149 --> 02:01:44,880
that

3401
02:01:48,870 --> 02:01:48,159
no worries final thoughts guys i'll just

3402
02:01:52,470 --> 02:01:48,880
send you the

3403
02:01:55,910 --> 02:01:52,480
memorandum's link on twitter

3404
02:01:58,149 --> 02:01:55,920
final talk it's it's a long way to go

3405
02:01:59,750 --> 02:01:58,159
that's what i can say but that's that's

3406
02:02:01,589 --> 02:01:59,760
not a bad beginning but let's

3407
02:02:02,950 --> 02:02:01,599
see we got to increase the pressure

3408
02:02:06,229 --> 02:02:02,960
that's that's what i can say

3409
02:02:07,030 --> 02:02:06,239
i agree and hints canada i don't know

3410
02:02:08,550 --> 02:02:07,040
your name

3411
02:02:10,229 --> 02:02:08,560
oh well uh my name is my name is aaron

3412
02:02:13,030 --> 02:02:10,239
but my my uh i

3413
02:02:14,950 --> 02:02:13,040
have like a ufo uap alias on twitter

3414
02:02:18,550 --> 02:02:14,960
which is canada loves uap

3415
02:02:20,390 --> 02:02:18,560
okay what are your final thoughts i i uh

3416
02:02:21,350 --> 02:02:20,400
as i said earlier i'm super happy about

3417
02:02:23,030 --> 02:02:21,360
today like it

3418
02:02:25,510 --> 02:02:23,040
blew up my patients of the water what i

3419
02:02:27,910 --> 02:02:25,520
was expecting in short was that

3420
02:02:29,270 --> 02:02:27,920
i think that the 2009 cases are like

3421
02:02:31,270 --> 02:02:29,280
mostly

3422
02:02:33,109 --> 02:02:31,280
foreign drones and i thought they were

3423
02:02:34,629 --> 02:02:33,119
just going to concentrate on just 2009

3424
02:02:37,430 --> 02:02:34,639
and kind of debunk 2009

3425
02:02:38,790 --> 02:02:37,440
and then blanket everything uap as the

3426
02:02:40,629 --> 02:02:38,800
2009 cases

3427
02:02:42,470 --> 02:02:40,639
but this was like way better than i

3428
02:02:43,109 --> 02:02:42,480
could ever expected so i'm super happy

3429
02:02:44,790 --> 02:02:43,119
and i

3430
02:02:46,470 --> 02:02:44,800
can't wait to see what uh what happens

3431
02:02:47,830 --> 02:02:46,480
next yeah i'm glad to have your input

3432
02:02:50,870 --> 02:02:47,840
and your insight and

3433
02:02:51,430 --> 02:02:50,880
everybody uh daniel who's there he's

3434
02:02:52,790 --> 02:02:51,440
muted

3435
02:02:54,709 --> 02:02:52,800
if you want to say anything here's your

3436
02:02:56,950 --> 02:02:54,719
chance

3437
02:02:58,229 --> 02:02:56,960
okay uh guys thank you for being part of

3438
02:03:00,390 --> 02:02:58,239
us see joe thanks

3439
02:03:02,790 --> 02:03:00,400
great starting historical day talk to

3440
02:03:04,229 --> 02:03:02,800
you soon

3441
02:03:06,790 --> 02:03:04,239
thanks for everybody for listening you